At Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:43:58 Andrew Hickey wrote: > > > > But what do you mean by 'suck'? There are a lot > > > of very idiosyncratic or even poor vocalists > > > who've made great records - Dylan, Randy Newman, > > > Van Dyke Parks, Billy Bragg, Michael Stipe - do > > > those suck in your opinion? All at the very least > > > take some time to get used to, but they also have > > > all been involved in truly great records... > > > Well, I'll question whether or not "truly great records" is a > > statement of fact or just your opinion here. > >I never said it was anything other than my opinion - I was just asking what >the word 'suck' referred to in the >original post, because there are a lot of idiosyncratic vocalists who make >good music. Okay. I'll be more concise. "Suck" was my primordial reaction to the vocal skills of The Darkness' lead vocalist. Academically, what constitutes "suck", specifically, is the inability to stay on key, in tune, or evoke a memorable melody. That pretty much sums up everyone on your list above. These folks might emote, and they might be great lyricists, songwriters and poets but this talent should never be misconstrued as part of their "singing" ability. Some folks listen to their songs as a whole, I listen to music with a dozen different criteria....one of which is whether the person dominating the song (i.e. the singer) is unbearable. Add Neil Young to that list too would ya? Jaimie Vernon, Bullseye _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca