andrea, who i agree with in almost everything else she's ever said, says:

> I'm a big fan of their hit too, but I'm not sure why it's being classified
> (and not just by you, Frank) as "pop," and especially not "indie pop."
> The only reason I can think of is perhaps to give listeners who usually
> aren't into the urban/rap/hip-hop/funk scene a way to explain why they
> like it so much.
>
> I'd say it's pop in maybe the Christina/Britney/Justin sense, but
> bleepy electronica hand-claps notwithstanding, I don't think the line
> between, say, the Postal Service and Outkast is thin enough to cross just
> yet. Maybe "Hey Ya!" doesn't have what we've come to think of as a
> traditional rap/hip-hop beat, but indie pop it ain't.

obviously we could have a 755-message thread about what constitutes "pop," and i'd end up on the side that holds that christina/britney/justin/outkast/beyonce/eminem/jay-z *is* pop, more
often than not anyway, while bleu and wheat would have to show their pop ID cards to the pop doorman and hope that he's in a good mood that night.

but be that as it may, i'd also say that "hey ya" could be easily, smoothly and undetectably slipped onto any of the following pop albums:

rem, automatic for the people
prince, dirty mind or sign o the times
justin timberlake, justified
evan dando, baby i'm bored (think about it. no, really, think about it.)
talking heads, little creatures
vaselines, way of the vaselines
ween, chocolate and cheese

...just for some examples.

matty