Sorry Mark. I work as a salesman selling studio quality monitors and recording equipment. I have a recording and mastering studio in my house, where I auditioned the recordings. The cymbals are hashy, and sound to me like cymbals sound when they are over-compressed and then compressed again in mastering. My biggest beef, as outlined in the original post, is the use of Antares Auto-Tune on the vocals. It is especially audible at points and it really bothers me. I had no problem with the little bit of out of tuneness of the original recording. I wish they hadn't tried to fix it. To me the mixes sound lifeless and harsh. Even though there is a lot to be desired from some of the Glynn Johns' mixes as far as the quality of the mastering, I far prefer that version of "naked" without auto-tune, bad digital reverb and lousy over-limited cymbals. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Mark London Reply-To: audities@smoe.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:27:46 -0500 >>From: "bob" >>We must have gotten two different versions of the CD...mine is a HUGE >>improvement over the previous release and boots.. > >I would be curious how you 2 listen to the CD. I.e., with speakers, >good headphones, or portable CD headphones? The difference in >listening experience has to be different. Considering that many >people listen to music like I do, which is to do so using a portable >CD player, with your basic inexpensive headphones, I've often >wondered if producers test how their mix will sound with a portable, >especially when new digital techniques are used to try and increase >the quality of older recordings. It might make the music sound >brighter, but at the same time, you lose the some of the smoothness >of the original analog recordings. This is especially true of the >drum and cymbal sound, which Frank complained of. If you listen to >music with portable CD headphones, the music is right up on your >ears, and something like overloud or annoying drum or cymbal sounds >might be more noticable than if you listened with speakers (and >especially since portable CD players have no controls that allow you >to correct the sound, except for "extra bass" and "lots of extra >bass") > >P.s. if you have the time, in some cases, you can correct the problem >with the cymbals by applying a high pass (or notch) filter. The >drums is another story. I've actually taken the time to use audio >editing software to manually smooth out the start of each drum hit. >Although you have to be crazy like myself to spend the amount of time >necessarily to do this, without being paid for it! > >