< I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I still say no one would give half < a shit about the Strokes or White Stripes if it weren't for the intangible < "hype" factor that has elevated these overrated indier-than-thou snots < to Rock God status. I guess the ticket to success in mainstream rock < is to get the hype, learn to suck, and make a wholeheartedly mediocre < lo-fi record. < < Hats off to Jack and Meg.... < < Jeff Hell, I must have been wrong all this time actually liking most of the songs. It's like the Grateful Dead -- for me, anyway -- like the band, dislike most of their fans (or the fan "scene", more precisely, I guess). Judgmental stereotyping, I know, but it's just how I feel. -Jason np: GBV, HARDCORE UFOS box set on shuffle