At 10:19 AM 10/23/2003 -0700, W. Colter wrote: >Guys, you're talking about a man who had a severe mental/physiological/physical imbalance which led to, or was exacerbated by, addiction, alcoholism and depression. It's a complex disease, and those who struggle with it very often don't recover from it. To be angry or condemning about his choices is to be child-like in your observations and reactions. Speaking as someone with a family history of depression, bi-polar disorders, drug addiction and other mental health problems, not to mention some personal experience with the topic at hand, I must first say that I'm about the last person who needs to be lectured about the seriousness of this topic, and I'll thank you to refrain. I would also argue that anger and condemnation are no more "child-like" than a knee-jerk "Oh, what a horible tragedy," and possibly even less so. I admit that it's likely that my reaction to this news has been colored by the fact that I never cared much for Elliott Smith's music, nor indeed for the man himself, based on the one time I ever saw him live, a 1996 solo performance most of which he spent drunkenly insulting and screaming at the rapidly-dwindling audience, but I stand by my opinion that -- not necessarily on a conscious level although I wouldn't put it past him -- in some ways, Elliott Smith chose to commit suicide, and specifically that he chose to commit suicide in the manner that he did, in order to become a legendary tragic figure. Given that I've already twice seen eulogies that called him "the greatest songwriter of his generation" -- a piece of hyperbole that I don't recall EVER seeing when he was still alive -- I'm afraid that he's already well on his way. S