I won't debate that suicide is selfish as hell.  I won't debate that
Elliott Smith wasted both his incredible talent and his life.  But I
don't think anyone here was putting him on a pedestal as any sort of
role model.

Quite obviously, he was very very troubled.  Do you suggest his music
isn't worth listening to or admiring because you can't stomach his
cowardice in facing down his demons?  Can there be no sympathy for
someone who felt that much pain, however he may have chosen to deal with
it?  And do you really think he killed himself to "prove" something to
anyone?

Like I said, I'm not looking to debate any of this, and I'm certainly
not a cheerleader for suicidal heroin addicts, but I for one am saddened
by the music world's loss.

Christopher 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: audities-owner@smoe.org 
> [mailto:audities-owner@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jaimie Vernon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:41 PM
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: Re: more on elliot smith
> 
> 
> At Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:22 Lauree wrote:
> 
> >***sorry to post this on all the lists, but why
> >not?!***
> >
> >I do agree on the idea that suicide is a selfish act
> >and really only hurts the people who loved the person.
> 
> All the more reason to stop romanticising this guy's musical 
> accomplishments 
> as a means of appeasing our shock and horror at what a total 
> waste of human 
> existance Elliott Smith was as a person. No one mentions his 
> cowardly exit. 
> Great tunes or not, the guy was a loser. And by taking his 
> life he fulfills 
> his career long ambition to prove himself right as a tortured 
> artist. Alas, 
> he'll live on as a martyr right next to Drake and Cobain. At 
> least he'll be 
> able to teach Cobain a thing or two in hell about good songwriting.
> 
> Call me heartless, but a heroin addict is not a role model...in any 
> profession.
> 
> Jaimie Vernon,
> President,
> Bullseye Records of Canada, Inc.
> http://www.bullseyecanada.com
> "Not Suing Our Customers Since 1985!"
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