Gary wrote: <<>>> Sorry Gary, but it isn't the same. The guy who is dying of cancer does not have a choice. The person who shots smack did/does. The analogy doesn't work. On the other hand, one must feel compassion for anyone whose pain is so great that they see no other alternative but suicide. Even if the man was a horrible creature his whole life (which is doubtful), one can't help but feel compassion for that pain, but feeling that compassion does not obviate Elliot Smith or anyone else from responsibility. It is the rare person indeed whose mental condition is so fully phyisically determined that they have no responsibility for their actions. Bill NP - Drew's SOTT 17 contribution "Chick Habit"