> My point is backed up by an article in Christian Science Monitor this > week. They interview college kids who are proud that they haven't > bought a cd in four years because of the ease of PTP downloads. > > You are probably right that some people who do illegal downloads do > go back and purchase cds. But how would you feel if a kid came into > your shop and stole the new Radiohead cd, but then came back next > week and bought The Bends? In my case, illegal downloads have caused me to buy many CDs that otherwise I would never have considered - I use it very much as a try-before-you-buy service. I download either sample tracks by bands I've never heard, to see if they're worth buying (for example I downloaded some Minus 5 stuff before going out and buying the CDs, and some tracks from the Nuggets box before going out and buying that), music I can't legally obtain (either because they're not available in the UK and I can't buy online because I have no credit card, or because they're deleted, like the Difford & Tilbrook album from 1985), or bootleg stuff (Beach Boys outtakes and so on). My music spending has gone up hugely since I became able to download MP3s - another example would be Love. I always assumed they'd only done the one good album, Forever Changes. Downloading tracks disabused me of that, and I've since bought every CD currently available (some more than once, because I became a huge fan *just* before the reissues with bonus tracks came out) and seen Arthur Lee live three times, which would never have happened without Napster, which is what I used then. That's not to say it's morally 'roght' to download music without paying, but nor is it always (IMO) morally 'wrong' - and it may lead to the artists getting a lot more *paying* listeners... -- http://stealthmunchkin.com Stealth Munchkin play the Cavern, Liverpool , Wednesday 15th October As part of International Pop Overthrow.