In a message dated 9/5/03 1:01:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, audities-owner@smoe.org writes: We were talking about the downloading issue last night, and the only real analogy I can make is shoplifting. Sorry kids... Well, you can say that, if you want, but the fact is that without internet record stores (NotLame in particular) and mp3s I probably never would've heard of Bobby Sutliff or The Windbreakers. I've never seen a Bobby Sutliff record on the shelves, ever, and likely never will. I don't say this to put you down, but to attack the notion on behalf of some artists that this is merely "stealing". To say so is to ignore the incredible promotional powers of the internet--and even ILLEGAL downloading (in fact, particularly illegal downloading) can be an incredible boon for lesser-known artists when it comes to at least getting their name/music out there. How often do you get radio airplay? Not often, I assume, but people probably do download some of your mp3s. And I personally don't buy the argument that mp3 trading will kill off CD sales since ALBUMS are a major pain in the ass to download in full. If you want a song or two to sample, or just like the single from an album, then yeah--that's pretty easy. An entire disc is an entirely different story, and at $12 I'd rather just buy it if I actually enjoy the few songs I've heard. I have a chance TO hear a few songs if I can download them. I don't mean to look at this through rose-colored glasses. After all I work on the retail side of the music industry for an independent retailer that is already seriously considering its exit from the music retail business completely in favor of selling fun junk. The industry is facing a crisis, and downloading IS a huge part of it. But its impact could easily be lessened by implementing a few measures--re-introducing the single, promoting more artists so as to appeal to a broader range of tastes and ages, and reducing the (artificially inflated) price of CDs. For those who DON'T think that's a factor, consider this--my (fairly sizable) chain has been increasing the prices on many of our catalog titles for about 3 years because THE RECORD COMPANIES CHARGE US MORE, AND THEY TELL US TO RAISE THE PRICES. We fight them whenever possible (they often do this, in part, because of some quasi-legal deals enabling Best Buy and other behemoths to offer the lowest advertised price in our region, which is complete bullshit and we often sale-price their catalogs simply to spite them). Our average mark-up on CDs is a mere 14%, which is nothing when you consider that we have rent, employees, and other overhead costs to consider. But I don't blame downloading, at least not completely. I think that the most telling piece of info I've seen recently--and I've seen it used in several respectable publications--is a graph detailing CD sales over the past 10-12 years. CD sales PEAKED in 2000 (which was WELL into the Napster boom, in fact 2000 was most certainly the peak of Napster as well) and then dropped back down to 1998 levels, where they are at present. But it's worth noting that in 1998, CD sales were higher than they'd ever been, so the number of units currently being sold is actually still a very respectable amount. It's also worth considering that after 2000 the nation entered into a major recession that curbed spending on luxury items (like music), and we still haven't emerged from this. For the time being, I choose not to believe the sky is falling, even if it does wind up changing a bit... --Jason