> Yeah, I think the secret to ripping these things is to rip them as wav > files. Which, once done, can be converted to MP3 if necessary via > MusicMatch. Essentially you aren't "ripping" them, if ripping means > creating a compressed copy. Rather you are "extracting" the tracks to your > hard drive, which may be different from ripping. I'll see if that works > with tithe Bangles record. I just happened to be listening to the Hail to the Thief on my PC while reading this posting, so I thought I would use MusicMatch to rip a 160 kbp MP3 of the first track off the CD. It copied successfully with no errors and the MP3 sounds fine. Oddly enough, I have also been able to rip MP3s from The Donna's CD "Spend The Night", another copy protected CD. Maybe my PC has an internal "decoder ring"???....but please don't alert the RIAA ;) Mark NP...ummm, would you believe, Radiohead? >