Great rant Kev! I agree with you 100%. My computer at home has become my home jukebox. I bought a 120 gig drive & dump every CD I buy into it. I also subscribe to E-Music and have a good collection of MP3s from there. Another reason I like to get everything on my computer is that I have a 110 disc changer at work that has text display. I make "greatest hits" or mix CDs for work & Roxio encrypts the Artist, Album & Song for display on the CD-R. Sometimes it can be a hassle, but if you try enough alternates (Real One, Music Match...or Roxio (rip wavs & convert them), you can usually get a CD onto your computer. Bruce - Have you looked into the possibility of a Not Lame/EMusic affiliation? Smile Records recently added their catalog. Parasol, Look Out & Epitaph have their stuff up there. Many of the labels hold their New Releases for a month or two before posting them...I'm assuming this is the length of the majority of initial CD sales. I often buy something that I know will be posted because I want the artwork/liner notes and I can't wait to hear it. This could be a future venue for the label or a way to keep the back catalog "in print" w/o additional pressing costs. QUESTION...if anyone is still reading: The new Liz Phair (for example) has the free internet EP available to CD buyers. I can only get this to stream...Am I *supposed* to be able to download it? Is it set up only to listen to? Thanks, Dan FrankE ****************************CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT*********************** E-MAIL AND/OR ITS ATTACHMENT(S) IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND CONTAINS INFORMATION THAT MAY BE CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY AND PRIVILEGED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS E-MAIL, OR AGENT RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERING IT TO THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY DISCLOSURE, DISSEMINATION OR COPYING OF THE CONTENT OF THIS E-MAIL IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS E-MAIL FROM YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM.