<< well, first of all, I am truly sorry if I pissed you (or anyone else) off craig. I am relatively new to this list so maybe I do not yet know "the rules":)....but, that being said, opinions are just that, opinions, and I stand by mine. take care. -Doug>>> I don't know if there are any RULES on this list except that most folks seem to like it if everyone is civil. But to get to the heart of the matter, I think of this list as more a POP list than a ROCK list, although it is a often both. So if the love of pop melodies are one of the key commonalites amongst us, if not THE key common factor, then the opinion that "Artist A does is not rock therefor is not worthy" doesn't hold much water on this list. Or at least that's what I think, I certainly can't speak for the list. Dave who loves both POP and ROCK, together and independently