Actually BJ wasn't that bad until he met Christie Brinkley and started writing crap like Uptown Girl, Middle of the Night, etc. 'We Didn't Start the Fire' was just about the apex of his lame-ness! IMHO....anyways! J << ~~~really? i find that most people like billy joel. you just have to get deep down past the 'i'm too cool for myself' crap. jocelyn >>