Well the old Stones albums are dated: 1963>. That looks like about 40 year ago to me. I think that only the first album sounds "old". I just think about all the bands that are still trying to copy that sound, even today. The modern "garage" sound just doesn't come close. No swing, no up and down, just a pose and third hand influences. The thing is that Sticky Fingers sounds like 1970 to me. They never came close to doing that again either. Yes, you had to be there. Things were changing so fast. Some bands like the Yardbirds just couldn't make the transition. Others like the Kinks couldn't hold people attention through the late 60's. On the other hand the Beatles and Stones did something totally different on every single and every album. It doesn't matter if Sgt Peppers was their best album, it was just what it was and everyone was focused on it for a while. Actually Satanic Majesties owes as much to The Mothers Of Invention "Freak Out" as it does to Sgt Pep. Singles like 19th Nervous Breakdown and Have You Seen Your Mother are their attempts at doing a Spector. I just love that manic energy. Crazy innit? RS Josh Chasin wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stewart Mason" > > I think of the '65-'67 Stones as being the Real Deal. Revisionist history > > has done the Stones no favors -- everyone acts like they were these > > degenerate rock and roll badasses who spent all their time pissing against > > garages and sucking Mars bars out of Marianne Faithfull, but in the > > mid-'60s, they were doing the same kind of pop-art exploration as the > > Beatles, the Kinks, the Who and all the other most worthwhile groups of > the > > era. It's hard for me to see the '68-'72 era, no matter how much I like > > those records, as anything but artistic calcification. "This is what our > > image demands we do. This is what we shall do, with diminishing returns, > > for the rest of our lives." > > To me-- and clearly this is all subjective-- those Stones records all sound > dated. 60s Stones conjures for me an image of Brian Jones in a funny hat > playing a sitar. I'll take "Moonlight Mile" over Nineteenth Nervous > Breakdown" any day of the week. Of course, maybe you had to be there... -- Ronald Sanchez Director Of A&R Career Records www.CareerRecords.com The Donovan's Brain Web Site www.Donovans-Brain.com