Bill: >this is now about someone posting for their own ego. It's a clear "look at >me I'm important and can stir things up and be the focus of your list". Not at all. Actually, I basically consider myself a lurker. I stick with the more passive digest format, and I rarely start threads -- usually, I just skim what's out there and add a brief two cents. It's just that the insecurity and hyperdefensiveness are so great that even my two-liners can cause an uproar. With a pretty high percentage of these arguments, I'm amazed that my comments provoked such grief. "I saw David in Amoeba." "Music's best drummers aren't confined to power pop." "Can you Bcc: your direct replies?" "Here's a different album poll, which is popcentric yet not IPOcentric." "CoF has a plus over the Audities poll because it includes the individual lists." "Here's 28 pop albums I liked a lot." Hardly volatile. Almost common sense, in some cases. Yet every one of these quickies drew bitter replies. Oh, and to the guy who hoped to jab me for being a non-musician, try a Google search for the words "i can't play a single note on anything." >even when Eb does some thought through response, the >underlying theme is still not what this list has been about since >its inception. Now you're at the heart of the matter. It doesn't matter so much if my responses are "thought through" -- what matters more is that they violate groupthink and challenge some of the list's fundamental assumptions. I receive too much positive, intelligent feedback to agree that I'm just some trolling, thickheaded canker sore. On-topic FYI: Jason Falkner played with Beck on SNL last night. Incidentally, I've recently been checking out some more mp3s from "Audities faves." Strikeouts on almost all of them, but I'll probably buy a Model Rockets disc sometime. However, I don't regard this as any big surprise, because I've enjoyed the Pop Llama scene for years. Not so much of an Audities thing for me. I've already said that I loved the last Minus 5 disc, and this sounds awfully similar. I also thought two songs by the Lackloves were much better than the norm and possibly worth investigating, but then a third one was a generic pastiche o' psychedelic wiggle which seriously discouraged me.