Eb replied: >>Bill Silvers: >>What do those egalitarian, >>broad-minded CoF folks think of them? Eb? Anybody? > >If you really care, just skim the lists on the CoF page and see if there >are any Figgs votes. One thing which *definitely* makes the CoF poll more >valuable is that it publishes all the individual lists. ;) OK, but don't the majority of individuals here post their best-ofs to the list at large? And regardless of whether they do or not, reading that X,Yor Z placed a band on their lists isn't as valuable to me when removed from the context of my seeing X, Y and Z's opinions on any number of other bands/topics in a list context over a period of time. Your partly-responsive answer gets to part of my trouble with your objections in general, based as they seem to be on the assertion of the superior diversity of a hundred-odd lists from folks who I don't know, outside of a list of their favorite records in a pdf file. Does a CoF discussion list exist? What's CoF's context? As I've said, I haven't been here long but I already have a handle on some folks tastes and where they seem to be coming from in their music appreciation as expressed in posts about music. I'd relish getting the opportunity to get a handle on your tastes too, Eb, particularly in terms of what you enjoy rather than what you disdain. Nothing reveals that like discussion, as opposed to declaration. I'm not new at all to music discussion lists, and the dissatisfaction that you express and have seemingly expressed for some others is something I've felt myself at times elsewhere. But after all the meta-discussion is done, a list always comes back to the need for somebody to talk about something in order for somebody else to talk back to them about it. If discussion here is too focused on music that you've taken every opportunity to express your disinterest in, it's up to you and like-minded others to talk about what interests you. Talk about what interests you and it will likely be interesting. Speaking just for myself, I'm as aware as I think I need to be at this point of what you aren't interested in. b.s.