> Okay, I'm a bit confused...You've described the Datsuns, who are from > New Zealand, but you've called them "The D4", which I thought was the > abbreviation for the group called "The Datsuns 4" (who I believe are from > Toronto). They're two separate groups, right? Somebody straighten me > out here. Did I miss the memo on this one? Bryan: The D4 I have has a New Zealand address - just grabbed the CD yesterday from a used bin. Any band that covers Johnny Thunders and names their leadoff track "Rock'N'Roll Motherfucker" gets my attention straightaway. :) On Insecticide/Flying Nun. This is the band Stewart saw that's touring with the (excellent, btw) Forty-Fives (words not numerals): http://www.thed4.co.nz/news.htm Coincidentally I did also find The Datsuns - also NZ - and their track #2 is called "Motherfucker From Hell". So both bands pass the curse-like-a-sailor test with flying colors. They're on V2 label: http://www.thedatsuns.com/news.htm If you think that's confusing, both NZ bands played together at last years SXSW - I imagine after a few beers running the merch table must have been interesting. :) b, who now must find the pop/Mod Datson Four for the trifecta..