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From | Holmes Online <bholmes_fm@msn.com> |
Subject | Re: audities-digest V8 #352 (1 msgs) |
Date | Sun, 2 Sep 2012 15:20:04 -0400 |
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And here's a perfect example of why we need this list - I love Jonny
Polonsky and had *no idea* that he had a new record out...and thanks to
Michael's sig, now I do. (Still not used to picking up on digital only
releases as easi;y as those released in multiple formats).
Bill, who abhors Facebook but loves Jennifer's posts and has learned a
ton from them
NP: Buffalo Killers DIG SOW LOVE GROW
On 9/2/2012 4:45 AM, Michael Coxe wrote:
> On Fri,8/31/12 8:15 AM, Jennifer Leduc wrote:
>> I know my discussion skills are not the best but I do like share new
>> bands/artists I enjoy so if it comes across as gratitutous self
>> promotion, that's not my intent.
>
> Jennifer, you're always bringing new Austin local groups & musicians
> to the fore, and many of those inspire comments (the term we sadly now
> confer to what we used to call conversation and discussion). And
> you're not flogging your own stuff, but the stuff you hear and love.
> What could be better? I love sampling new stuff, & have listened to
> much of what you've introduced, & replied to a few when inspired.
> Please continue.
>
> Please take my complaining for what it is. Gratuitous self promotion
> is a self-imposed term from posters themselves, and I found it amusing
> at the time. Audities folk in prior times could be tough
> (passionately) when flogging bordered on spam. And I heard stories (a
> couple directly) of musicians complaining they got little
> promotion/$$/whatever out Audities-List members. Audities was never a
> marketplace, tho some folks mistakenly thought it would be like a band
> fansite, with folks ready to plunk down cash for whatever was served
> up . What they found instead were folks not unlike themselves:
> misfits, musicians, music business types, writers, collectors,
> lurkers, a few trolls, just plain fans (me), combinations of all these
> and the simply unclassifiable. Tho possibly consumers when moved, that
> movement was strictly performed to each subscriber's own drum beat.
> Individually subscribers surely purchased (still purchase?) a ton of
> music.
>
> Back to Facebook. It being what it is, Audities there ebs & flows
> discussion wise. I guess when there's not alot of dancing about
> architecture, self promotions tend to stand out. What's missing, and
> what I dislike about most current social media, is the lack of
> cohesive structure. A comfort zone. I feel adrift even when
> participating, going thru motions but not emotionally connected. And
> all that openness, with music discussions like these mixed
> side-by-side with everyone's daily life tribulations, feels creepy. I
> love reading your (you Auditiers) stuff about music and the music
> world within the bounds we've set, but all that other stuff mostly no
> thanks (as I hope you'd not care to read of my dull life either).
> Facebook has serious structural problems that I doubt can be
> corrected, per its origins as a people directory (its very name) & the
> focus on "Self". Zuckerberg, with 57% ownership, will undoubtedly be
> running things for a lifetime, but where is he taking everyone?
> Bizarro world IMO. Some suggest Facebook reflects Zuckerberg's
> personality, like Apple & Jobs, which as good an explanation as any.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Michael
>
>
> NP: Jonny Polonsky - Intergalactic Messenger of Divine Light and Love
> One of my faves of 2012. Insanely great pop record!
>
>
>
>> > Subject: audities-digest V8 #352 (1 msgs)
>>> From: audities-owner@smoe.org
>>> To: audities@smoe.org
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:00:48 -0400
>>>
>>> The Audities Digest: for the discussion of insanely great pop
>>> Volume 8 : Issue 352 : "text" Format
>>>
>>> Messages in this Issue:
>>> Re: facebook advice [Michael Coxe
>>> <popville@gmail.com>]
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:45:08 -0700
>>> From: Michael Coxe <popville@gmail.com>
>>> To: audities@smoe.org
>>> Subject: Re: facebook advice
>>> Message-ID: <503EC5A4.5080403@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> On Tue,8/28/12 4:06 PM, Scott Pazur wrote:
>>>> Since these lists are getting pretty quiet, I can only assume
>>>> things have
>>>> moved over to Facebook. I had originally given up on Facebook
>>>> years ago,
>>>> but I set up my account again over the weekend and now need some
>>>> advice on
>>>> where to go to find the good stuff like the Audities and Jelly
>>>> lists used
>>>> to have. Any other related groups or things would be great as well.
>>>> Thanks to all!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The burst Audities-List activity on Facebook late last year is what got
>>> me to rejoin FB (on Audities via a nom-de-plume), but it's descended
>>> again into glorified adverts (gratuitous self promotion in legacy
>>> Auduties-List speak) and little in the way of discussion. To me round 2
>>> experience of FB overall is much like round one, lots of posts but
>>> little in the way of impassioned involvement. That includes all
>>> aspects,
>>> not just music lists. I'll stick around there, but I'm down to checking
>>> barely more than once a week.
>>>
>>> - Michael
>>>
>
>
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