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From "Michael Adelsheim" <madelsheim@adelsheimvineyard.com>
Subject Re: concert start times
Date Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:05:33 -0700

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All you 40-somethings...I'm sixty and this has been my reality for many
years.  As someone once (might have) sung..."welcome (finally) to the
working week...."   

(Not to be snide, but as one gets older, one doesn't just have to pick
one's battles, but one's parties too!)

    
MICHAEL ADELSHEIM
Director of Sales
   
ADELSHEIM VINEYARD
16800 NE Calkins Lane
Newberg, Oregon   97132
tel:   503.538.3652
fax:   503.538.2248
cell:  503.318.9359
madelsheim@adelsheim.com
www.adelsheim.com

                 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: audities-owner@smoe.org [mailto:audities-owner@smoe.org] On Behalf
Of Arthurbang2@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:23 PM
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: concert start times

I don't mind the late starts as much as I hate when it says on the  
ticket that a concert starts at a certain time but you get there and  
that's just when the doors open.  I've had to wait up to 2 hours  
before any band actually comes on.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Mar 9, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Ronald Sanchez - Career Records
<eldeluxe@bridgeband.com 
 > wrote:

> In the old days, opening bands might play 20 mins and 30 mins.  
> Headliner another 45 or 50, then they'd do it again. I'm speaking of  
> the Fillmore. When I saw Hendrix, there were three opening bands:  
> John Mayall, Albert King, and The Soft Machine (who only played one  
> set) We got out at like 2.30! Best $3.50 ever spent. I agree. Local  
> gigs are so lame now. I went out to see only two shows last year. At  
> one, the first band was setting up at 10.30 and trying to do a sound  
> check. Why? Then they played far too long. This was on a Monday  
> night. Our pal Herman Jolly and his band Little Pieces couldn't  
> understand why there wasn't a big crowd... Bands never start before  
> 10.30 here, but then, no one will show up before then... I just  
> don't go see the local bar gigs, and sadly, there are never even  
> bands I want to see anymore come through.
>
> Bill Sherlock wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I recently had the sad experience of passing on a show that I would  
>> have loved to see (Explorers Club) due to its advertised show time.  
>> To wit, the show began at 9:30 PM with two openers. Let's say band  
>> #1 got 30 minutes. Then there's, let's say, 20 mins. setup for  
>> opener #2. They play for 45 minutes. Another 30 mins. setup for EC  
>> and we're at 11:30ish. They play for 90 mins. and the show ends at  
>> 1:00 the next day.
>>
>> This show was on a Wednesday. I have 2 kids to get off to school  
>> the next day which means that I have to be up by 6 to pack lunches,  
>> make sure they eat something for breakfast, etc. Not an easy thing  
>> to do on 5 hours of sleep. I am 45 years old and would have loved  
>> to have seen this show, but logistically it was just not feasible.  
>> The questions I have for any music pros are these: Why do these  
>> shows start so late? Am I not the target demographic (probably not  
>> but I love to hear some discussion on this)?
>>
>> I had the pleasure of seeing the Kaiser Chiefs last fall. Their  
>> show began at 8:30 and was over by 10:00. Is this not usually doable?
>>
>> Thanks for any and all responses.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Ronald Sanchez
> Director Of A&R
> Career Records <http://www.careerrecords.com>
> Donovan's Brain <http://www.donovans-brain.net>
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