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From "Bill Jones" <wigout6@juno.com>
Subject Re: Caution, May Induce Vomiting
Date Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:36:04 GMT

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> I agree completely, John. "Thriller" also got blacks artists on MTV, which included rap, which then enabled that whole genre (and what I guess is now 'new R and B') to basically take over the charts. Nirvana and other grunge bands had nice but brief chart success; the chart topping rock band seems pretty rare these days. Seems like it's all rappers and divas, with the occasionally rock band thrown in.  And with black artists dominating the charts and MTV, it's changed the way all these suburban white kids dress and talk the last 20 years. It's completely mainstream now. Before Jackson on MTV it wasn't.  64-74- yea, right. For every Beatles there was shit like Vanilla Fudge. Smoke another joint, hippie.

Kinda confused here, Rob... You've noted that Thriller essentially opened the door to black artists / rap / new R&B taking over the mainstream charts, with rock band success becoming an infrequent to rare event (e.g., Green Day, The Killers).  And that's a good thing?  Personally, I kinda miss rock & roll being a mainstream presence.

It seems to me that the era Lefsetz references had a more healthy mix than today of great music being created in all genres (rock, soul, pop, etc.), AND being heard by a wide audience across the country, but on radio, rather than the niche-inducing Internet.  If that wasn't his main point / argument, then I guess I skimmed his piece too quickly.


Be seeing you,
Bill

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