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From Scotthomewood@cs.com
Subject Re: Caution, May Induce Vomiting.
Date Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:44:11 EST

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Everyone thinks "their time" is the best time. This is obviously the time 
Lefsetz grew up and the time he knows best. I tend to keep going back to that 
time period myself and "re-discovering" gems (I say "re-discover" but I am 
usually hearing these things for the first time) - from the jazz to the soul/funk to 
the country music to the rock/psych music recorded during that period. I am a 
little too young to actually have enjoyed the music as it happened, so to 
speak, but if I were to be honest, most of my music collection derives from that 
time period and if I were to just "off-the-top-of-my-head" pick a ten year 
span that has provided me with most of the music I enjoy (I won't say that the 
music is the "best" because I think that's the wrong word to use and why Lefsetz 
seems like a tool) it would be those ten years right there. So, I kind of see 
what he says even though I really don't like the way he says it.

Scott Homewood




In a message dated 12/24/2008 11:01:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
synthhtnys@comcast.net writes: 
> There may have been only one "Renaissance" in painting if you tie the word 
> to that specific era, but
> there have been several renaissances, several "concentrated artistic 
> fervors" and there are more to come. 
> 
> You could say that there was only one "Renaissance" in music if we're going 
> to play that game and it wasn't 1964-1974 either... it was from the 14th to 
> the 17th centuries... I'd be willing to bet there were ebb and flows in that 
> period too... of generally agreed on superior and less brilliant years / 
> decades.... 
> 
> ... but none of this is going to make a Boomer love himself and his time 
> frame any less is it?
> 
> I'd agree with him if he's asserting that the lay of the land in the music 
> industry in that time period allowed for a sort of rugged individualism and 
> that everything has changed from that model by now, but the whole "There is 
> only one good time in popular music and that "64 - 74" 
> idea which is frankly what he seems to be saying is complete dog squat and 
> really shouldn't be asserted anywhere outside a vomitorium.
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: John Micek <jlmicek@verizon.net> 
> 
> >From Lefsetz's latest screed. 
> >
> >And, tonight, ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the absolute 
> >apogee of Boomer self-involvement: 
> >
> >
> >"The decade from 1964-1974 represents the musical . There 
> >was only one Renaissance in painting. It's not like artists dropped 
> >their brushes and drills thereafter, it's just that never again was 
> >there such concentrated artistic fervor, never again was art at the 
> >center of public focus to such a degree. People have been making 
> >records for decades since the sixties, but they just don't stick in 
> >the same way. "Thriller" may be the second best selling record of 
> >all time, but it has none of the raw energy, it lacks the cultural 
> >impact of "Meet The Beatles". "I Still Haven't Found What I'm 
> >Looking For" is a great track, but it pales in comparison to 
> >"Satisfaction". In the sixties and early seventies music drove the 
> >culture. If you wanted to know which way the wind blew, you turned 
> >on the radio. The radio was an Internet built solely for us, the 
> >baby boomers. It featured not only music, but hip news too. The 
> >deejays were not beholden to corporate masters, we felt they 
> >truly belonged to us. If you wanted to make a statement in the 
> >fifties you wrote a book, if you had something to say in the sixties 
> >and seventies, you cut a record. Which the audience waited in rapt 
> >attention for. We truly believed what was contained in the grooves 
> >was the essence of life. We needed to get closer. To not only the 
> >Top Forty gems, but records that were the beneficiary of no airplay 
> >at all. We had an underground railroad, passing these gems along. 
> >They still make music today, but it's not the same. Hell, before the 
> >Beatles no one knew you could make this much money, no one bothered 
> >to cut album length opuses, we invented it as we went along, which is 
> >why we can't relate to Live Nation and the rest of the corporations 
> >serving product up to us. We thought music was best presented by 
> >Bill Graham, at his vaunted Fillmores East and West." 
> >
> >
> >
> >Well, we might as well stop making music, art or literature. It's all 
> >been done before and those pesky Boomers did it better. 
> >Good Lord ... 
> >
> >john micek 
> >

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