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| From | "Steve" <toddfan@comcast.net> |
| Subject | Re: Butch Walker (last time from ME...lol) |
| Date | Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:33:56 -0600 |
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...maybe it is because I have been there from "the beginning" ( I put that
in quotes, because I got in during the Marvelous 3 days and there WAS a band
pre-Marv 3 that I didn't hear). I always thought Marvelous3 was one of the
really good heavy pop bands that just didn't get the attention they
deserved. That's when I first saw the audience and band doing the "horns"
hand symbol, using both hands with the saying "Too much rock for just one
hand." To me, (being basically....OLD like I am) it was pretty clear that
the Marv 3 were in many ways either "making fun of" or "paying tribute to"
the "80's hair bands". So...as a fan, it only follows that I would continue
to see Butchs' campy side as shtick.
I can see how, seeing only one DVD performance, someone might be put off by
the shtick. But, it is after all, a DVD, and you are correct, the audience
in the DVD seemed to enjoy the show, just like the audiences that I have had
the pleasure to actually be IN and watch a show have enjoyed the show. If
you are someone who likes a "high energy" and "entertaining" performer, who
can also show you that he has some real musical talent to go along with the
entertainment aspect of performing for an audience, then you would be
someone who I would recommend going to see Butch Walker perform LIVE. All I
am trying to say is that Butch Walker is WAY better live than one would ever
realize from merely watching a DVD in a home setting...I've seen the DVD and
it is a pale imitation of what you would see in a real LIVE show. There
would be lots of wonderful musical moments...lots of personality...and yes,
lots of rock and roll clichés and shtick....but, if you love heavy pop
music, then I also think there would be lots of smiles....some of them even
on your face.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: audities-owner@smoe.org [mailto:audities-owner@smoe.org] On Behalf Of
Christopher Kouzes
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:40 AM
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Butch Walker
I guess that's just what I don't understand (or that I just don't pick
up on). Cool by me doing things tongue-in-cheek. But without a wink or a
nod letting everyone in on the joke, then is it a joke?
Based on the video I watched, the entire crowd was eating up the shtick
hand-over-fist.
-----Original Message-----
From: audities-owner@smoe.org [mailto:audities-owner@smoe.org] On Behalf
Of Steve
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:09 PM
To: 'Stewart Mason'; audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Butch Walker
...then Butch is definitely NOT "emo"...Butch's tongue is firmly planted
in
his cheek. The whole thing about Butch is "he KNOWS its rock-n-roll
shtick"...that is precisely why he is doing it.
-----Original Message-----
From: audities-owner@smoe.org [mailto:audities-owner@smoe.org] On Behalf
Of
Stewart Mason
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:32 PM
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Butch Walker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael McCartney" <michaelmccartney@yahoo.com>> Drew asked:
>
> Help an old man out. What are "emo theatrics" and what is so
> off-putting about them?
>
>
> Robert replied:
>
> A good example might be during the ending of Butch's Best Thing You
> Never Had where Mr. Walker screams and wails while pulling out all
> the strings on his guitar and throwing himself on the floor of the
> stage. All while the band continues to play and the girls in the
> crowd hold their cell phones up and weep.
>
>
> Michael wonders:
>
> Isn't this the same thing that's been going on at rock shows for
> decades? Just substitute Kodak Instamatic cameras instead of cell
> phones? How does this make it Emo? Teenage girls crying at the
> foot of the stage sounds like The Beatles and Elvis to me. All over
> the stage sounds like Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix or The Who. I
> even witnessed that stage action at IPO last year.
Add in an overall sense -- from both performer and audience -- of
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! I'm so SENSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! No one
UNDERSTANDS meeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!! Everything sucks and it's ALL
YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!" and hey presto, you got emo.
S
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