smoe.org mailing lists
ivan@stellysee.de
| From | Benjamin Lukoff <blukoff@alvord.com> |
| Subject | Re: The Police Fan Club - Police/Elvis Double Bill |
| Date | Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:51:29 -0800 (PST) |
[Part 1 text/plain US-ASCII (4.7 kilobytes)]
(View Text in a separate window)
Screw a Bill of Rights--jus boycott.
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, bob wrote:
> Here's what Lefsetz has to say about this...
>
> bob
>
>
> Why don't they just make the concerts free!
>
> Okay, if I want to go to the show, I've got to get not only a
> Citibank card, but an Amex. And I've got to join the fan club too. So in
> this rolling wave of pre-sales, maybe I can get a seat. Which won't
> be too close to the stage, because those seats NEVER go on sale to the
> general public!
>
> And Live Nation is rebranding all of its smaller venues "Fillmore",
> to trade on the good will of the man who helped build this glorious
> business. Bill Graham is rolling in his grave. Live Nation doesn't
> give a shit about the public, and neither do the Police.
>
> As for the band, rather than leave a good taste in the public's
> mouth, they want to eke every last dollar from the landscape with a
> scorched earth policy. And if you believe this is the band's last tour,
> then you're betting that one of the three croaks in the dead pool.
> Because money will bring them back. Are you aware of Sting's OVERHEAD?
> And the other two, while not homeless, can't make a dollar on the
> road without Mr. Sumner.
>
> We need a concertgoers bill of rights. What can it contain?
>
> Well, let's start off with a seating plan that illustrates which
> seats never go on sale, so people won't buy fan club memberships in hope
> of buying these ducats.
>
> A rebate if the final tour is not. Or guaranteed seats up close and
> personal if the band goes back on the road.
>
> No t-shirt over $25.
>
> No parking fee unless you're in an urban center. Even if the lot is
> paved. Unless space is at a premium, parking is free!
>
> Fan club fees must guarantee a seat within a certain area of the
> building. So people know what they're getting.
>
> One on sale date. No rolling dates based on privilege. Isn't this
> what's wrong with America? The division between the haves and the
> have-nots? Not everybody can afford an American Express card. Not
> everyone QUALIFIES for a Citibank card. Even if you have the cash, you
> might be shit out of luck. You end up sitting in the back no matter
> what.
>
> No seat over $125. I'd say $100, but the industry would freak out.
> As for prices higher than that, those seats must be auctioned from
> the get go. The act can reap the reward of the upside, but it must be
> clear what seats are auctioned and how many of them there are, so the
> fan can make an informed decision.
>
> But Live Nation doesn't give a shit about the fan. Live Nation is as
> bad as radio. Live Nation is playing to Wall Street, not the
> concertgoer. Just like Clear Channel is playing to Madison Avenue, despite
> lip service to the listener. Hell, did you see that Clear Channel
> is increasing the number of minutes of advertising on the radio? Why
> not turn every station into an infomercial. Make the whole CHANNEL
> an ad!
>
> And you wonder why terrestrial radio is dying and the concert
> business is a minefield. Grosses might be going up, but the key is to get
> people in the habit of attendance. That's how you grow the business.
> But we've got the labels not wanting any more people to own music
> than in the CD days. New technologies allow more people to own more
> music at a lower price? FOUL! We're married to the old business
> model!
>
> The music business is fucked up. If you' don't believe this, you're
> part of the problem.
>
> http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i76778d3ae0efdedc146b890288340641
>
> http://www.privatepass.citi.com/site/main.aspx
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120295626450067289.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_marketplace
>
>
>
>
> Randall J Paske <rpaske@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> There is also a presale for Citi Card credit card holders--because Citibank is a tour sponsor--that starts on Feb. 18. And fan club presales don't start until Feb. 20. What's up with that? How do they apportion these tickets, anyway? And didn't someone say the tickets from the fan club presale weren't so swell?
>
> Randy
> --
>
> Mark Bacino wrote:
> As soon as I deactivated that sneaky 'auto renewal' function on The
> Police fanclub site, they go and announce the last leg of the tour!
> With Elvis C opening! Now if I re-up my membership for $100, I become a
> 'legacy' member allowing me to buy shitty seats 2 hours earlier than
> 'new' fanclub members. And if you're not in the fanclub, well you might
> as well set a lawn chair out in the parking lot as the general public
> sale begins days later.
>
> Bastards. every fiber of my being is telling me to forget this.but ma,
> it's The Police and Elvis
>
> See ya, yeah, I have to go renew my membership (sigh).
>
> -mb
>
>
>
For assistance, please contact
the smoe.org administrators.