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From bob <segarini@rogers.com>
Subject Re: The Police Fan Club - Police/Elvis Double Bill
Date Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:17:20 -0500 (EST)

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Here's what Lefsetz has to say about this...
   
  bob
   
   
  Why don't they just make the concerts free!

Okay, if I want to go to the show, I've got to get not only a
 Citibank card, but an Amex.  And I've got to join the fan club too.  So in
 this rolling wave of pre-sales, maybe I can get a seat.  Which won't
 be too close to the stage, because those seats NEVER go on sale to the
 general public!

And Live Nation is rebranding all of its smaller venues "Fillmore",
 to trade on the good will of the man who helped build this glorious
 business.  Bill Graham is rolling in his grave.  Live Nation doesn't
 give a shit about the public, and neither do the Police.

As for the band, rather than leave a good taste in the public's
 mouth, they want to eke every last dollar from the landscape with a
 scorched earth policy.  And if you believe this is the band's last tour,
 then you're betting that one of the three croaks in the dead pool.
  Because money will bring them back.  Are you aware of Sting's OVERHEAD?
  And the other two, while not homeless, can't make a dollar on the
 road without Mr. Sumner.

We need a concertgoers bill of rights.  What can it contain?

Well, let's start off with a seating plan that illustrates which
 seats never go on sale, so people won't buy fan club memberships in hope
 of buying these ducats.

A rebate if the final tour is not.  Or guaranteed seats up close and
 personal if the band goes back on the road.

No t-shirt over $25.

No parking fee unless you're in an urban center.  Even if the lot is
 paved.  Unless space is at a premium, parking is free!

Fan club fees must guarantee a seat within a certain area of the
 building.  So people know what they're getting.

One on sale date.  No rolling dates based on privilege.  Isn't this
 what's wrong with America?  The division between the haves and the
 have-nots?  Not everybody can afford an American Express card.  Not
 everyone QUALIFIES for a Citibank card.  Even if you have the cash, you
 might be shit out of luck.  You end up sitting in the back no matter
 what.

No seat over $125.  I'd say $100, but the industry would freak out.
  As for prices higher than that, those seats must be auctioned from
 the get go.  The act can reap the reward of the upside, but it must be
 clear what seats are auctioned and how many of them there are, so the
 fan can make an informed decision.

But Live Nation doesn't give a shit about the fan.  Live Nation is as
 bad as radio.  Live Nation is playing to Wall Street, not the
 concertgoer.  Just like Clear Channel is playing to Madison Avenue, despite
 lip service to the listener.  Hell, did you see that Clear Channel
 is increasing the number of minutes of advertising on the radio?  Why
 not turn every station into an infomercial.  Make the whole CHANNEL
 an ad!

And you wonder why terrestrial radio is dying and the concert
 business is a minefield.  Grosses might be going up, but the key is to get
 people in the habit of attendance.  That's how you grow the business.
  But we've got the labels not wanting any more people to own music
 than in the CD days.  New technologies allow more people to own more
 music at a lower price?  FOUL!  We're married to the old business
 model!

The music business is fucked up.  If you' don't believe this, you're
 part of the problem.

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i76778d3ae0efdedc146b890288340641

http://www.privatepass.citi.com/site/main.aspx

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120295626450067289.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_marketplace


  

Randall J Paske <rpaske@kc.rr.com> wrote:
  There is also a presale for Citi Card credit card holders--because Citibank is a tour sponsor--that starts on Feb. 18. And fan club presales don't start until Feb. 20. What's up with that? How do they apportion these tickets, anyway? And didn't someone say the tickets from the fan club presale weren't so swell?

Randy
--

Mark Bacino wrote:
As soon as I deactivated that sneaky 'auto renewal' function on The
Police fanclub site, they go and announce the last leg of the tour!
With Elvis C opening! Now if I re-up my membership for $100, I become a
'legacy' member allowing me to buy shitty seats 2 hours earlier than
'new' fanclub members. And if you're not in the fanclub, well you might
as well set a lawn chair out in the parking lot as the general public
sale begins days later. 

Bastards. every fiber of my being is telling me to forget this.but ma,
it's The Police and Elvis

See ya, yeah, I have to go renew my membership (sigh).

-mb



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