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From Hersh Forman <hiforman@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: New group question
Date Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:50:57 -0800 (PST)

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Bill, Yahoo Groups ARE e-mail based.  I vote for a Yahoo Group.


----- Original Message ----
From: Bill <billm45s@verizon.net>
To: Stewart Mason <craigtorso@verizon.net>; audities@smoe.org; mrhonorama@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 7:56:06 PM
Subject: Re: New group question

Stewart et. al.,

Sounds real good to me.  My primary concern was that audities find a home 
and not disappear and I would have be willing to use the SOTT group as 
either a permanent home or a stop gap.  I would prefer not to be a list 
administrator, though would be more than willing to help within any group. 
I know Sarah from a few SOTT's and she is a fine person, who I think she 
would do a great job.

Also, it does seem that the general consensus is that it not be a Yahoo 
group.  My two cents, is that I agree with Mike that any new group would be 
best as an email based group, but I will join it any way it is established.

Finally, once again I want to thank Michael Coxe for all his efforts and 
dedication.  As someone who joined within months of it starting, I 
understand the combination of pride, joy and frustration that Michael must 
feel.  During its early years, this list was filled with energy and 
excitement and Mike guided it through with a gentle hand.  Overall, Audities 
has been a mostly polite list with a few trolls now and then, but I can 
understand how these recent outbreaks are just wearing and why he needs to 
walk away and maybe just be a regular member of a new list.  A new list may 
also serve to be a little invigorating.  Maybe, not taking audities for 
granted will get more people posting and discussing the music and other 
related topics, like other sources of information, such as web sites, 
forums, zines, etc.

Yes it is shame that effectively a musician acted like a troll and served as 
the last straw.  And yes it would be better not to take the bait of a troll. 
But it happens.

Finally, in any new list or space I hope we take a fairly open atmosphere 
and not have lots of rules.  Clearly, it would be best if we avoid cranky 
bitter trolls, but there are always disagreements and one person's troll is 
another's humor (more often than not Gabe makes me smile and I find his 
intent harmless, and not filled with the bitterness that has recently 
infected Bob).

Bill - listening to Sarah Borges "Diamonds in the Dark", which if I had last 
year would have easily made my top 20 of 2007.  She sounds like she would be 
excellent live.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net>
To: <audities@smoe.org>; <billm45s@verizon.net>; <mrhonorama@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: New group question


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill" <billm45s@verizon.net>
> To: "Mike Bennett" <mrhonorama@hotmail.com>; "Auditieslist" 
> <audities@smoe.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: New group question
>
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Bill Holmes and I sexchanged a few emails this morning about the 
>> possibility of using the existing SOTT YAHOO group as an alternative, 
>> since there are already 70 plus people signed up on the group.  We also 
>> thought, since neither of us has time to be a full time admin, that maybe 
>> it would be better to have a Board of Administrators (he called it a 
>> judicial counsel) for issues that may arise.  We both used your name as 
>> someone we would want on the Board if we were to proceed.
>
> Sarah, who has list admin experience, has offered her expertise at setting 
> up and administering a Google Group, which the general consensus seems to 
> think is far preferable to Yahoo.  My own experience running and being a 
> member of Yahoo groups is that without fairly active full-time 
> administration, they get overrun by spambots pushing porn, which would be 
> its own level of annoying.  I think that seems like the way to go, 
> personally.
>
> S
>


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