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| From | bob <segarini@rogers.com> |
| Subject | Re: Shake Some Action - Too Few Women In Power Pop, Gadzooks! |
| Date | Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:17:38 -0500 (EST) |
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One of the few, (and I mean few, it's a wonderful book), travesty's was the snubbing of The Bangles. An absolutely essential and wonderful part of what's called 'Power Pop'.
Even the reunion CD, 'Doll Revolution' is a constant source of pleasure in my home.
BTW...thanks for the tip to Orion Experience...stellar CD.
I'll bitch about 'Gotta Have Pop' being a paragraph title, but ignored as an album later...not to mention 'Hot Wacks', Miss Butters, and the fact that I produced the Romantics ep for Greg, (Shaw), trhat got them the attention of Nat Weiss, and of course, the production and love heaped upon the B-Girls' "Fun At The Beach'.
Not to mention Dan Hartman wanting to form a super group with himself, me, Alex Chilton, and Dwight Twilley...but that's another story all together.
And sincere thanks to Scott Carl for mentioning The Wackers in his segment in the book...very cool.
bob
Bruce Brodeen <popmusic@notlame.com> wrote:
I'll speak for John here.....neither of us are losing sleep over any of
those three albums being, uh, 'snubbed'. ;-P So I can 'imagine' why they
did not make 'the list' with relative ease, I'm afraid.
(insert picture of John and Bruce sitting, rubbing hands together, eyes
slanted around thinking of pop bands we have vendetta against here...)
Mainly, because 2 of them do not slot themselves as 'power pop' albums in
either of our opinions or for most of the readership, as well. Jade? If I
was writing an article for Magnet's best lost albums of the 90s(ie: indie
rock, indie pop, hipster pop, etc.), Jade would be in there. Very fine
album! "power pop" classified? Nope. Muffs: great punk-pop, but 'power
pop'? Hmmm.....okay, I can go there as I was weened on the Stooges
alongside Raspberries but it's merely a very good record(the Muffs'
strongest p robably) from them, not anywhere near 'all-time' list for either
us.
and the other(Expreso) I've never heard of and -- and for the record, I own
197 of the albums on John's list so we're going super, ultra and downright
esoteric w/ the Expresos album there(which is cool, for the record -
esoteric is A-OK), a band I've never even seen mentioned or come across once
in all my years. (I am intrigued now, tho...and am now making note to track
this bugger down, a quick google confirms it will not be easy)
Note to Editor B. Brodeen on Volume 2, Shake Some Action: Tell Sir John
Borack to appreciate women more to be more simpatico to politically correct
types. JOHN!?!?! ;-P (I keedd, I keedd!)
Seriously, what Darryl says I could not say any better so I guess I should
have left it at that. ;-P
'Seriously', Mach II: very glad you are enjoying the book!
Important note there, though: I am down to about 150 copies left of 1,200.
If yr interested, you really should get on it. Soon. I've not hyped it here
at all, but not sure how long I'll have stock:
http://www.notlame.com/PBPOWERPOPBOOK.html
We're heading into 'snooze, ya' lose territory soon-ish.....
Bruce
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> If what you say is true, that very few women are involved in creating
> this type of music, I don't know how you could
> fault the author for not including them. Should selections be made
> based on merit or gender? I'd say it would be more of an insult to
> place token selections just
> because this list doesn't have enough female artists. That's like
> saying, "This list of greatest linebackers in NFL history makes it
> seem that women don't exist."
> Of the three titles you listed I don't feel like it was an incredible
> oversight that none were included.
> Just don't feel that anyone was trying to make it a No Girls Allowed
> club.
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Aaron Milenski wrote:
>
>>
>> I am enjoying the book very much and I think it is wonderfully done.
>>
>> That said, I will levy my usual criticism against the entire pop/
>> powerpop fanatic cult, which is that once again it's pretty much as
>> if women don't even exist. In the top 200, only 4 albums are by
>> bands/artists with female singers or songwriters (two of which are
>> the same woman), and only one in the top 100. There's very very
>> little representation elsewhere, as well.
>>
>> I know part of the problem is that so few women play this type of
>> music, and it's awfully hard to truly define the term "power pop,"
>> but I can't imagine how albums like Expresos' PROMISES AND TIES or
>> Jale's SO WOUND or the Muffs' BLONDER AND BLONDER could be snubbed.
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