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From | markeichelberger@comcast.net (Mark Eichelberger) |
Subject | Re: Control |
Date | Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:41:07 +0000 |
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Hmmm....if you go back and look at the thread of this email, no one ever claimed that Joy Division were extremely skilled musicians. Indeed, they were not. But I think you are missing the main point regarding the movie which was that the actors did a great job in recreating the look and sound of the group. We felt that was a great accomplishment.
Why statements regarding the actor's and filmakers's talents produced a crass comment that Joy Division were "wanks that could barely play" is anyone's guess.
Mark
-------------- Original message --------------
From: <zoogang@cox.net>
> Influence and ability are two different things. Although maybe some bands'
> inability to play their instruments may constitute influence to some. I'm with
> Bob on this one--I don't want to hear bands that can't play. Attitude only goes
> so far with my ears.
>
> Alan
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> ---- Mark Eichelberger wrote:
> > Yeah, just like the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, the Velvet Underground, the New
> York Dolls etc. etc. What nerve to think that they should actually get up on
> stage and play music before mastering their instruments. And we all know those
> bands never went on to influence anyone....
> > Mark
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: bob
> >
> > > Not so suprising considering the Joy Division was just another bunch of
> wanks
> > > that could barely play...
> > >
> > > bob
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Eichelberger wrote:
> > > That is true. I read that they originially planned to dub the Joy Division
> > > songs to the filmed live perfomances, but the actors took to their roles and
> > > instruments so quckly and so well, they chose to leave the group
> > > performances intact. I saw some original live performances of JD on YouTube
> > > and it is pretty remarkable how much the actors were able to recreate the
> > > look and sound.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stephen McEntee"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Control
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Mark Eichelberger
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's one of those rare "rock" movies where the
> > > > focus is more on the people than the music.
> > > >
> > > > But it should be noted that the music sequences are
> > > > really terrific - getting the actors to learn the
> > > > instruments & songs has produced some seriously
> > > > convincing song performances...
> > > >
> > > >
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