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From "Jeff" <jeff.teez@comcast.net>
Subject Re: too much and or not enough
Date Sat, 12 May 2007 23:19:03 -0400

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Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 10:54:17 -0700
From: "Bryan" <>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Subject:
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> Aren't you just pissing into the wind when you complain that some/most
> people want to pay as little as possible or even nothing for your 
> music?

"Even nothing"? Seriously?

***Oh no, Bryan, I'm sorry about that. I was just saying that there ARE 
people who get their music for free and we all need to recognize that 
and accept it, I think. I *think* it's unstoppable, but I'm not sure of 
that. It's certainly not the right thing to do, god knows. I'd never 
espouse that course of action. The only free music should be that which 
is offered up by the artist as such. Honestly, I was only pointing out 
that it's part of the reality that we're all now facing. Your analogy 
that follows is terrific. Well said. For the record, I don't get my 
music for free, though I once did, years ago. It was hard at first to 
resist. I've since learned my lesson well. I do have friends who are 
musicians (at least until up until they read this latest rant of mine 
<grin>). Complaining here on the list that there are people who get 
their music for free seems pointless to me. We all know that Limewire 
and other P2P's are still out there. Let's concentrate on the mass of 
consumers who agree that musicians SHOULD be compensated. I'm one of 
those. We're just talking dollars and sense and basic economics here, I 
believe. I promise you, I DO obey the laws. You picked up on my "even 
nothing" comment and righfully so. I should have been more clear. Thanks 
for pointing that out. I was trying to include that detail of "free 
downloaders" as part of my larger point and I failed at that.

jeff t.

I have an analogy for you, regarding the illegal download of tracks -- 
because that's what your talking about when you're talking about getting
your music for free, if you're physically going online and finding 
tracks that
you're not paying for (the ones that aren't promotional, or streaming, 
or
given away along with a purchase or whatever):

Imagine a highway full of speeding cars. We all know that speeding is
illegal, but just about everyone does it (here in L.A., anyway). People 
not
only speed they drive reckless.

There isn't a state trooper in the world that can pull EVERY speeder 
over.
Why bother? But should they stop pulling people over? Of course not.

The meer presence of the police car causes people of moral character to
obey the speed limit. Even the ones that speed anyway slow down when
they see the cops, and the fear of getting caught causes them to speed 
in
moderation.

Up until now there has only been one large, faceless and apparently 
inept
organization (the RIAA) supervising an over-the-top large scale 
campaign.
There are other NO COPS ON THE ROAD...so people are speeding and
saying "I don't have to obey the laws on this road ...no one else 
is...." and
they continue to speed (or download music illegally).

Oh, wait...a cop has pulled someone over... people are hitting the 
brakes.
More labels are following suit. More cops means less speeders. We need
more cops making sure people aren't breaking the laws, or at least the
presence of more cops to give the impression that people are breaking 
the
law.

That's probably not a great analogy, but every time I see someone 
posting
a comment about getting music for free, I can't help think that there 
should
be a cop writing you up a ticket at the DSP level, tacking it on to your 
online
DSL bill....after paying a couple of those fines -- say the price of a 
hefty
speeding ticket -- $200 bucks in a months time, let's say -- do you 
think
you'd still be speeding along on the free music highway?? No, you'd
probably start to obey the laws a little more, wouldn't you?

Bryan


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