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| From | plattc@optonline.net |
| Subject | Re: What IS influence, anyway? |
| Date | Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:47:52 +0000 (GMT) |
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This was also reported in yesterday's NYTimes, and on Monday's Op-Ed page of same.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stewart Mason
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: What IS influence, anyway?
To: audities@smoe.org
> There's a link to a story about the confession at the top of
> this
> page, under Latest News:
>
> http://www.pristineclassical.com/HattoHoax.html
>
> I hadn't heard of any of this! Interesting story.
>
> S
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Bennett"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: What IS influence, anyway?
>
>
> > Stewart --
> >
> > Are you a Joyce Hatto fan? She was an undistinguished British
> > piainst who died last year, who was suddenly discovered. A
> slew of
> > recordings that seemed to establish her as a true talent.
> Guess
> > what - it was a hoax.
> >
> > It unraveled when someone put in a Hatto CD in his computer,
> and
> > iTunes indicated it was a different artist. The two discs
> were
> > compared -- and they were identical. Her husband admitted
> that he
> > committed the fraud so that his wife's life could end on a
> high
> > note.
> >
> > This is post about the fraud -- I couldn't find a link to the
> wire
> > story on the admission:
> >
> > http://www.stephenpollard.net/003148.html
> >
> > Mike Bennett
> >
> >
> >
> > Blog: http://blog.myspace.com/mrhonorama
> > Record reviews and more at http://fufkin.com
> > Find out about Chicago shows:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Stewart Mason"
> >>Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
> >>To:
> >>Subject: Re: What IS influence, anyway?
> >>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:02:12 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Smith"
> >>>So I guess I wonder - there being a good number of musicians
> here,
> >>>and
> >>>plenty more informed listeners - is there a standard that
> says if I
> >>>can't
> >>>hear it, it's not really an influence? Or can influences be
> more or
> >>>less
> >>>invisible to the listener of the finished product?
> >>
> >>I think so, or at least so buried that you don't recognize
> them
> >>until the artist says they're there. I'm sure I've used this
> >>example here before, but I once read an interview with Brian
> Eno
> >>where he said that when he was in school, he was addicted to
> his
> >>parents' Ray Conniff albums, particularly the wordless vocal
> >>choruses. I wouldn't have made that connection on my own (fan
> >>though I am of Conniff myself), but remembering that quote in
> the
> >>context of hearing, say, "Taking Tiger Mountain" or "On Some
> Faraway
> >>Beach," I just think, "Well, yes, of course."
> >>
> >>What bugs me is when I can hear nothing BUT the artist's
> influences,
> >>especially when it seems like an artist is influenced solely
> by a
> >>certain set of stylistically similar bands. I don't mind when
> you
> >>can baldly hear an artist's influences IF he's combining
> several
> >>different styles into one whole (the High Llamas' blend of
> Brian
> >>Wilson, Steely Dan, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Ennio Morricone and
> Mouse
> >>On Mars, for example), but when you can listen to an album and
> hear
> >>that the songwriter's influences stretch all the way from the
> >>Beatles to Badfinger, with a short detour into ELO, I'm just
> not
> >>interested.
> >>
> >>S
> >>
> >
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