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From | "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net> |
Subject | Re: What IS influence, anyway? |
Date | Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:39:19 -0500 |
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There's a link to a story about the confession at the top of this
page, under Latest News:
http://www.pristineclassical.com/HattoHoax.html
I hadn't heard of any of this! Interesting story.
S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Bennett" <mrhonorama@hotmail.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: What IS influence, anyway?
> Stewart --
>
> Are you a Joyce Hatto fan? She was an undistinguished British
> piainst who died last year, who was suddenly discovered. A slew of
> recordings that seemed to establish her as a true talent. Guess
> what - it was a hoax.
>
> It unraveled when someone put in a Hatto CD in his computer, and
> iTunes indicated it was a different artist. The two discs were
> compared -- and they were identical. Her husband admitted that he
> committed the fraud so that his wife's life could end on a high
> note.
>
> This is post about the fraud -- I couldn't find a link to the wire
> story on the admission:
>
> http://www.stephenpollard.net/003148.html
>
> Mike Bennett
>
>
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>>From: "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net>
>>Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
>>To: <audities@smoe.org>
>>Subject: Re: What IS influence, anyway?
>>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:02:12 -0500
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Smith" <sam@lullabypit.com>
>>>So I guess I wonder - there being a good number of musicians here,
>>>and
>>>plenty more informed listeners - is there a standard that says if I
>>>can't
>>>hear it, it's not really an influence? Or can influences be more or
>>>less
>>>invisible to the listener of the finished product?
>>
>>I think so, or at least so buried that you don't recognize them
>>until the artist says they're there. I'm sure I've used this
>>example here before, but I once read an interview with Brian Eno
>>where he said that when he was in school, he was addicted to his
>>parents' Ray Conniff albums, particularly the wordless vocal
>>choruses. I wouldn't have made that connection on my own (fan
>>though I am of Conniff myself), but remembering that quote in the
>>context of hearing, say, "Taking Tiger Mountain" or "On Some Faraway
>>Beach," I just think, "Well, yes, of course."
>>
>>What bugs me is when I can hear nothing BUT the artist's influences,
>>especially when it seems like an artist is influenced solely by a
>>certain set of stylistically similar bands. I don't mind when you
>>can baldly hear an artist's influences IF he's combining several
>>different styles into one whole (the High Llamas' blend of Brian
>>Wilson, Steely Dan, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Ennio Morricone and Mouse
>>On Mars, for example), but when you can listen to an album and hear
>>that the songwriter's influences stretch all the way from the
>>Beatles to Badfinger, with a short detour into ELO, I'm just not
>>interested.
>>
>>S
>>
>
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