smoe.org mailing lists
ivan@stellysee.de
| From | "Michael Curry" <mikecurry@hotmail.co.uk> |
| Subject | Re: the new London sound? |
| Date | Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:43:00 +0000 |
[Part 1 text/plain (2.7 kilobytes)]
(View Text in a separate window)
You're right, which makes him the only mockney out of the three of them, and
actually wanting to try so badly to be from Brixton when your're not is
pretty sad. At least the other two sing as they talk. Regardless of
background or schooling, Lily Allen is a Londoner, so I'm getting what I
expect from her. Whether she can actually sing or not is another question.
BBC 6 Music love her. She's played just about every hour, as are the Arctic
Monkeys who are very much not mockney. Damon Albarn, however, is.
Mike
>From: "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
>To: <audities@smoe.org>
>Subject: Re: the new London sound?
>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:58:47 -0500
>
>Well, except that Skinner is actually from Birmingham. The voice he uses
>on the Streets records is completely a put-on, because he has a noticeable
>Birmingham accent when you see him in interviews.
>
>S
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Curry"
><mikecurry@hotmail.co.uk>
>To: <audities@smoe.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:44 PM
>Subject: Re: the new London sound?
>
>
>>Alex Turner is not mockney. He is from Sheffield in South Yorkshire, and
>>his voice could not be misconstrued as anything but typical of that area
>>of England. Lily Allen and Mike Skinner are a pair of Chavs from Sarf
>>London. The accents are about as similar as Russian and Bahamian.
>>
>>
>>>From: "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net>
>>>Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
>>>To: <audities@smoe.org>
>>>Subject: Re: the new London sound?
>>>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:28:44 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Smith" <sam@lullabypit.com>
>>>>What I noticed, though, was her phrasing. Her vocal rhythms remind me a
>>>>LOT of Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys, who I'm convinced has been
>>>>listening to a lot of Mike Skinner (The Streets).
>>>>
>>>>Does anybody here know enough about these scenes to connect the dots for
>>>>me? Are there some real influences at work, or are the similarities a
>>>>coincidence?
>>>
>>>To my ear, it's more of a socio-cultural thing than a musical thing: all
>>>three singers are a good example of "mockney" (
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mockney ), a kind of deliberately affected
>>>faux working-class accent that middle or upper-middle class folks put on.
>>> They're in good company: as that Wiki article notes, Mr. Michael Philip
>>>Jagger, formerly of the London School of Economics, was one of the first
>>>singers to do this, followed by (not mentioned in the article though I
>>>don't know why) the Turkish-born diplomat's son John Mellor, who
>>>carefully roughed up both his accent and his bio to become Joe Strummer.
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>
>>
>
For assistance, please contact
the smoe.org administrators.