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From Richard Brown <rbrown1985@yahoo.com>
Subject Larry Norman/ Jesus Rock
Date Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:03:39 -0700 (PDT)

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People who like "Jesus Rock" of that period should
check out a group called Love Song. Their leader was a
guy named Chuck Girard, who in the early and mid 60's
was in The Castells and The Hondells (Little Honda!).
Great songs, great harmonies (many Beach Boys
inspired). They also were pretty good and putting out
a nice country-rock vibe when the songs was right.
Phil Keaggy was in the final version of the band
before they broke up in 1973-1974.

Girard's mid to late 70's solo albums frequently
featured backup from members of Ambrosia before they
went all "Hall and Oates". Check out Girard's song
"Anthem" on the site below for a nice little Beach
Boy's style wordless vocal songs.

Check them (and Larry Norman) out here:

http://one-way.org/jesusmusic/index.html

There are audio links. 

I can't stand what passed for pop gospel now, but this
era was still pretty rough and tumble...and alot of
the 'stars' of the era had actual pop careers before
pioneering "Jesus Rock". I'm not really a church goin'
guy anymore, but this music is still good.

Rich B




> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:37:22 -0500
> From: "Brad Harvey" <billionbrads@att.net>
> To: <audities@smoe.org>, <audities@smoe.org>
> Subject: Larry Norman
> Message-ID: <200507261742.j6QHgwEd027082@smoe.org>
> 
> Is anyone on the list familiar with an artist named
> Larry Norman and an
> album called ONLY VISITING THIS PLANET? It's
> mentioned in Christian rock
> circles as being one of the greatest albums in the
> genre and I wondered if
> this was true or if Satan is pulling my ear.
> 
> Brad Harvey
> NP: De Novo Dahl CATS & KITTENS 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:57:24 -0400
> From: "Aaron Milenski" <amilenski@hotmail.com>
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Cc: billionbrads@att.net
> Subject: Re: Larry Norman
> Message-ID:
> <BAY106-F192554620205570DAA1721BCCD0@phx.gbl>
> 
> >Is anyone on the list familiar with an artist named
> Larry Norman and an
> >album called ONLY VISITING THIS PLANET? It's
> mentioned in Christian rock
> >circles as being one of the greatest albums in the
> genre and I wondered if
> >this was true or if Satan is pulling my ear.
> 
> Yep, absolutely.  Norman has had a long, productive
> career,
> beginning in the 60s band People (had a hit cover of
> the
> Zombies "I Love You.")   I've heard tons of
> Christian rock
> and folk over the years, most terrible, some quite
> good,
> and I agree that ONLY VISITING THIS PLANET is the
> best
> album I've ever heard in the genre.    Norman covers
> a lot
> of genres there, from old-fashioned rock to ballads
> to
> Dyalnesque folk-rock, and it's all musically
> memorable and
> lyrically fascinating (I say this even though I
> disagree with
> him on pretty much everything, i.e. "our money says
> 'in God
> we trust' but it's against the law to pray in
> school.")
> 
> His IN ANOTHER LAND album is excellent as well.
> 
> I'd be careful about taking recommendations from
> Christians about the best Jesus rock, as there seems
> to be no discernment at all about whether an artist
> has "soul," i.e. whether the production and singing
> isn't completely schlocky and lacking conviction. 
> For
> example, the second most oft-cited "greatest
> Christian
> rock record" is Randy Stonehill's WELCOME TO
> PARADISE, which I find to be a really mainstream
> and unappealing variation on what Norman does.
> 
> Any more questions on this genre, I'm willing to
> give the non-believer answer,
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:16:42 -0700
> From: Ralph Alfonso <ralph@nettwerk.com>
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: payola
> Message-ID: <v04220804bf0c257dfd6a@[209.17.154.171]>
> 
> it will always go on in different shades and
> permutations at all 
> levels, even *gasp shock* our
> little indie world.... except of course it's way
> more affordable :)
> 
> I remember when I was living in LA in the 80s and
> working with hair 
> bands... that was HEAVY times....
> cash in Fedex envelopes.... refrigerators delivered
> to store clerks 
> (Soundscan cleaned up all the
> phony retail reporting that used to go on)....club
> owners pulling 
> guns to demand their "fee" from merch sales....
> secret flights to 
> drop off points to deliver money to indie
> promo guys...very scarey stuff.... you'd call a
> station & the md 
> would go, "great record man! have you got
> bobby bobbo working it? If bobby were working this,
> i'd be playing it 
> tomorrow"....
> maybe it's gotten a bit more sophisticated but it
> will always go 
> on.... even in its most innocent basic form -
> taking someone out for lunch/dinner....
> 
> it is very depressing for an artist to see this go
> down, but at that 
> mega-million level, those are heavy stakes
> and everyone is in on it... the music itself seems
> to be the least priority...
> 
> however, i firmly believe the current
> indie/digital/back to basics 
> phenomenon is circumventing a lot of that by
> finding success outside of the mainstream.... the #1
> digital download 
> on CDBaby (tracks they have placed with
> DSP sites) was Siobhan Duvall, an unsigned female
> punk guitarist 
> (ex-Bif Naked) here in Vancouver with her cover of
> "99 Red Balloons" 
> - i'm sure a lot of you got that email from Derek
> Sivers and 
> scratched your heads:)
> but success is what you want it to be. She hardly
> ever plays live 
> anymore and that cd is maybe 5 years old now.
> 
> The best thing that could happen out of all of this
> if access to the 
> mainstream airwaves were suddenly to be based on
> artistic and musical 
> merit as opposed to Pro-Tool plug ins and millions
> of dollars of 
> bribes and marketing/positioning.
> It would be a radical shift back to the origins of
> FM radio and the 
> dawn of rock radio - stuff that is already happening
> on 
> satellite/digital radio and which, make no mistake,
> terresterial 
> radio is very aware of -  this is the perfect excuse
> to clean house 
> and go for it.... the future is not
> Jack/Bob/Bing/Jane radio which 
> trades on easy nostalgia - the future should be the
> future.... 
> tomorrow's hits today (to paraphrase that). The
> whole 
> podcast/glorified mix tape thing could work great on
> mainstream radio 
> -  it would really force radio to be *gasp*
> creative, innovative, and 
> actually in touch with what's going on....
> 
> whew!!
> 
> ok. i can talk more about this at The Joint, July 31
> (this Sunday), 
> Los Angeles... ahem... Bongo Beat Night... and...
> uh....
> FREE CDS FOR THE FIRST 25 PAID PEOPLE THERE...uh....
> yeah.... >sheepish grin<
> 
> 
> Ralph Alfonso
> http://www.bongobeat.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:32:02 +0000
> From: erhoek@comcast.net
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: songs about bashing
> Message-ID:
>
<072620051832.6157.42E681A200097C070000180D2206999735050A01089D0A@comcast.net>
> 
> I totally agree with Greg's view. Albini comes off
> consistently as the hipster insider sycophant to the
> Amphetamine Reptile and early Touch and Go scene and
> takes every given opportunity to take potshots at
> anything that offers a tinge of melody and doesn't
> sound like a garbage truck being driven off the
> Matterhorn by a gang of Hell's Angels..
> This snobbery from someone who produced, among other
> things ,a Bush album doesn't add up.
> I think Albini's output as Big Black was right up
> there in the emperor has no clothes category as
> Metal Machine Music with the exception of Big Black
> having maybe a bit more "melody" (using the word
> loosely). .
> Slint,a band Albini produced, were much better for
> that genre.. i.m.o.
> -r
> 
> 
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:03:46 -0400
> > > From: "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net>
> > > To: <audities@smoe.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Artists Surrender Their Favorite
> Power-Pop Songs
> > > Message-ID:
> <000b01c59132$70bfaf90$1d02a8c0@Sparky>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Sager, Greg"
> <greg.sager@bankofamerica.com>
> > > > And it's nice to see via this *Magnet* survey
> that middle age has 
> > > > not changed Steve Albini's charming and
> winsome personality one 
> > > > iota.
> > > 
> > > I know people who have recorded with Albini, and
> believe it or not, 
> > > word is that he's actually a perfectly nice guy
> in real life, when 
> > > he's not working his persona.
> > 
> > 
> > Albini and I used to cross paths a lot back in '84
> at the two-flat here on 
> > Chicago's North Side where Breaking Circus lived
> while they were recording their 
> > EP *The Very Long Fuse*. (Albini's mentioned in
> the liner notes of the EP via 
> > his nickname at the time, "the Little Weed". He
> weighed about 90 pounds soaking 
> > wet.) We were both friends with the guys in the
> band, and the band's apartment 
> > was something of a hangout. I also used to see
> Albini at a lot of Naked Raygun 
> > and Effigies shows, as they were part of that same
> scene. Believe me, that 
> > scabrous persona he cultivates in the press was
> the genuine article. Of course, 
> > that was over twenty years ago. Since then he may
> have actually figured out how 
> > to play nice when someone isn't pointing a
> microphone in his face.
> > 
> > 
> > Gregory Sager
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:45:27 -0400
> From: "Stewart Mason" <craigtorso@verizon.net>
> To: <audities@smoe.org>
> Subject: Re: songs about bashing
> Message-ID: <011a01c59212$314c5580$1d02a8c0@Sparky>
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <erhoek@comcast.net>
> To: <audities@smoe.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:32 PM
> Subject: songs about bashing
> 
> 
> >I totally agree with Greg's view. Albini comes off
> consistently as 
> >the hipster insider sycophant to the Amphetamine
> Reptile and early 
> >Touch and Go scene and takes every given
> opportunity to take potshots 
> >at anything that offers a tinge of melody and
> doesn't sound like a 
> >garbage truck being driven off the Matterhorn by a
> gang of Hell's 
> >Angels..
> 
> Please explain his well-known fondness for Cheap
> Trick in this 
> context, including Big Black's entirely respectful
> cover of "He's A 
> Whore" and his own sessions with Rockville's finest.
> 
> S
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:53:14 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Lee Elliott" <pop@anotherplanet.ca>
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: Re: songs about bashing
> Message-ID:
>
<57468.198.169.171.159.1122403994.squirrel@www.anotherplanet.ca>
> 
> > This snobbery from someone who produced, among
> other things ,a Bush album
> > doesn't add up
> 
> I don't think he's been inconsistent when explaining
> his method of
> choosing acts to record.  He'll record anyone and
> charge with
> consideration to your budget.  Recording Bush
> probably paid for some tasty
> gear.  A pro should be able to record a band they
> don't like and help them
> make the best pile of crap they are capable of
> creating. :)
> 
> I love the sound on the recent Robbie Fulks albums -
> not to mention his
> work with The Pixies and Jawbreaker.  He has a
> massive list of credits.
> 
> Lee Elliott
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> End of audities-digest V3 #433 (13 msgs)
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