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From "Durben, Steven" <Steven.Durben@cignabehavioral.com>
Subject Re: Music in Film
Date Mon, 16 May 2005 11:43:08 -0500

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Larry said...
I don't disagree necessarily. He (Tarantino) meant it as ironic, and it
worked in Reservoir Dogs. But irony, in my opinion, once such a great
literary and filmic device, is way overused these days -- or in the case of
Alanis Morrissette, misunderstood completely. 

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Hey Larry,
  Yeah, well, you make a good point and I do agree with you there in terms
of the overuse in general of irony in film.  I thought it worked in this
film and thus, my response (I confess, while I think it was very well done,
it's such an awful, sadistic moment, that seeing that scene once was plenty
for me). 
 I wonder if Tarintino may be in part to blame for this irony fixation in
film? And as Alanis might say, wouldn't that be ironic! :)
I also can't help but wonder if and where Tarintino  snipped the idea and
use of music for this scene from.
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 Larry:
My main point is that music is
being used too readily for affect as well as effect. Actually, it's damn
hard to find an old-fashioned movie score that's any good, as composers who
are great at doing their best to enhance the visuals are few and farbetween
(Morricone), or dead (Jerry Goldsmith, Henry Mancini).

*** Well, I think I'm with you in the sense that when the score tries to
hard to create the emotion rather then simply enhance the scene, it can
cheapen the impact for me (per ringing false).  However, it's funny because
I have been revisiting some old Bergman films. In "Through a Glass Darkly"
for example, the music (Bach's solo cello) almost knocks you over at times
to convey the somber, isolated, dark mood and yet I love it's use.   
  Similarly, to music being to heavy handed in conveying emotion...when the
score has lyrics that literally paint a picture of what your already seeing
on the screen to double the impact (I guess), that drives me nuts.  I think
Forrest Gump had a few of these moments but I've forever blocked them from
my mind.
Speaking of the power of music. I think it was Will that mentioned The
Starland Vocal Band last week. Will, I had their song, you know the ONE,
stuck in my head for about 24 hours.
To use a film quote "THE HORROR".

Steve D
NP: Stew "something deeper then these changes"






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