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From Ken Kase <kenkase@nighttimes.com>
Subject Re: It's kinda like watching a train wreck ...
Date Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:40:59 -0500

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Aside from my interest in "insanely great pop", I am also a huge fan of jazz
and early blues and folk recordings. Need to clear a room? Put on an Ornette
Coleman album! When I hear complaining that "these damn kids" don't know
quality when they hear it, I have to laugh. I have run into lots of kids who
dig the Beatles, et al.

But I consider myself the guardian of music which people generally either
dismiss or show open hostility. Lots of people openly hate jazz. It's like a
Penn and Teller routine I saw on TV one night. They were doing a trick that
involved a cigarette and Penn turns to the camera and said "Remember kids,
you should never smoke...unless you want to be cool!"

-- Ken Kase
   Editor
   www.nighttimes.com / Night Times, LLC




On 4/20/05 8:23 AM, "Sager, Greg" <greg.sager@bankofamerica.com> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:42:16 -0400
> From: "Jason Damas" <jason.damas@gmail.com>
> To: <audities@smoe.org>
> Subject: Re: It's kinda like watching a train wreck...
> Message-ID: <019d01c54531$0a717950$0302a8c0@JASON>
> 
> You know what 
> I HAVE encountered in this group, though? Resentment that the Beatles,
> Stones et al. have been so shoved down their throats by boomers as music
> they *HAVE* to like because it's *BETTER* than whatever they're already
> listening to. That doesn't tend to sit well, much like Gregory pointed out
> with the Sinatra comment.
> 
> 
> Absolutely. Most young people tend to resent the implication that the music
> of their parents (or grandparents!) is superior to the music of their
> contemporaries. It's true even if, as Jason points out, they actually do
> like (or even prefer) Baby Boomer music.
> 
> The corollary to not being preachy to younger people about your era's music
> is to be open-minded about theirs. I thought about this last night as we
> were packing up after IPO's Jam Recordings Night show at Wise Fool's Pub.
> The bar staff put their own music on the house p.a., and I think David Bash
> was a little taken aback to see me blissing out to "Hey Ya" by OutKast,
> which is one of my favorite songs of this decade. I can't help it; it's an
> insanely catchy song, and hookiness is always my bottom line as far as
> popular music is concerned. Plus, I love the spare but thick sound of the
> song. I realize that the wildly eclectic and inventive OutKast is hardly a
> typical hip-hop act, and that "Hey Ya" is more funk than rap. But the point
> remains: it's important to keep an honest ear open to music that's outside
> of the typical genres or musical eras that constitute your comfort zone.
> 
> Incidentally, David had what I thought was a really good musical analogy for
> "Hey Ya", which is that it sounds like a modern version of Frank Guida's
> "Norfolk Sound" house-party R&B productions ("Quarter To Three" by Gary U.S.
> Bonds, "If You Wanna Be Happy For The Rest Of Your Life" by Jimmy Soul,
> etc.) of the early sixties.
> 
> 
> Gregory Sager



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