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From "Eytan Mirsky" <eytanmirsky@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: audities-digest V3 #149 (17 msgs)
Date Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:19:38 -0500

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The Audities Digest: for the discussion of insanely great pop
Volume 3 : Issue 149 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Wonder of an iPod (also: how'd I miss???)
                                       [Jason Damas <jason.damas@gmail.com>]
  Re: Wonder of an iPod (also: how'd I miss???)         [jchasin@nyc.rr.com]
  Re: Wonder of an iPod (also: how'd I miss???)
                                      ["Lee Elliott" <pop@anotherplanet.ca>]
  Re: Twilley, where art thou?                      [boim@att.net (Sherman)]
  Re: Odd combos                               ["bob" <segarini@rogers.com>]
  Re: Odd combos                    [Joe Field <joe@flyingcolorscomics.com>]
  Re: Opening Acts      ["Christopher Kouzes" <Christopher.Kouzes@btol.com>]
  Re: Opening acts/SCTV        [Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@mindspring.com>]
  Re: OT Ramos                ["Jaimie Vernon" <bullseyecanada@hotmail.com>]
  Opening acts            ["Barry Holdship" <barryholdship@mybluelight.com>]
  Martin Luther Lennon                                     [Popdude@aol.com]
  Re: Ramis                       ["Eytan Mirsky" <eytanmirsky@hotmail.com>]
  opening acts and R.E.M.             [Ed Masley <emasley@post-gazette.com>]
  Still way OT Ramos/SCTV
                      ["Durben, Steven" <Steven.Durben@cignabehavioral.com>]
  SCTV guide                     ["brynneandscott" <brynneandscott@cox.net>]
  Re: audities-digest V3 #147 (15 msgs)                    [Lrbcoll@aol.com]
  Re: REM                ["AssociationWorks" <AssociationWorks@comcast.net>]

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:57:59 -0500
From: Jason Damas <jason.damas@gmail.com>
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Wonder of an iPod (also: how'd I miss???)
Message-ID: <8e71684005022512572eca4fb6@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys:

I recently upgraded to the uber-iPod, the 60GB monster, and because of
this I've been feeding it my entire collection, one disc at a time
(and it should fit about 3/4 of it). This also means it's been
reminding me of how much I liked some CDs I haven't heard in awhile,
such as:

Martin Luther Lennon -- His two albums were fantastic. Does anyone
know what Tony's been up to these days?
Cooler -- This one was less popular, I think, but it sort of took
vintage Cars, Cheap Trick, and even Journey and updated them into a
modern power-pop platter. From Tennessee, I think. Any idea what
happened to them? I don't even think I've ever seen them mentioned
here but I got it from NL based on a recommendation and still love it.

Also, file under "how did I miss them until now":
The Argument --- Thank the Cars trib for this one, because I loved
their version of "Hello Again". Got their newest and am
astounded--this EASILY would've placed in my top 20 (if not top ten)
had I gotten it before the end of the year. GREAT uptempo power-pop
with a just-as-great power ballad right in the middle. Very yummy
stuff.
Spiraling -- Takes the more experimental sides of Starclock, Owsley,
or OkGo and ups them to the nth. Crisp, catchy, and adventurous--this
is generally what I like my power-pop to sound like. I CAN'T believe
this album is 3 years old and that I missed it until now because it's
squarely up my alley.

I'd highly recommend all these discs to everyone here. --J

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:20:12 -0500
From: jchasin@nyc.rr.com
To: Jason Damas <jason.damas@gmail.com>, audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Wonder of an iPod (also: how'd I miss???)
Message-ID: <2288f262287543.22875432288f26@rdc-nyc.rr.com>



----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Damas <jason.damas@gmail.com>
>I recently upgraded to the uber-iPod, the 60GB monster

Question:

How many of those 60 gigs are actually free for music?  I ask because I have 
he
40 gig iPod, but with the software and utilities on the thing, it nets out 
to
about 37 gigs and change free for music.  I was under the impression that 
the
60-gig version is supposedly for photos and music, and so may have mor4e
software on it (taking up space I'd want for music.)

(Tangential rant: pet peeve of mine.  Why can't a thing just be one thing?  
Why
does my phone have to take pictures?  Why does my iPod have to display 
pictures?
Why does my Palm have to have email?  You end up with a lot of devices that 
do
many things, but none of them well.)


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:35:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Lee Elliott" <pop@anotherplanet.ca>
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Wonder of an iPod (also: how'd I miss???)
Message-ID: <25517.207.195.108.158.1109370921.squirrel@207.195.108.158>

>How many of those 60 gigs are actually free for music?
I suspect that the space you lose is more due to the 'math' they use when
they size hard drives - it's always less than what they round off to.  If
the programs used that much space, they wouldn't fit on a cd (and Windows
XP does).

>Why does my iPod have to display pictures?
I like this one.  Albumn covers are cool.

Lee


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:14:40 +0000
From: boim@att.net (Sherman)
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Twilley, where art thou?
Message-ID:
<022520052114.17830.421F953F000F25AB000045A621603763160307010D@att.net>

Hey Bruce,

Funny that Twilley's label, Digital Musicworks International, Inc. (DMI) is
making his new album available at Amazon. This is their creed according to 
the
label's website: "By distributing and promoting artist's music exclusively
through digital music stores, DMI is taking advantage of this new medium to
deliver an improved artist experience. Through a digital-only music 
distribution
model, artists will have more creative control, and can release more songs, 
more
frequently."

If given a choice, I'd rather buy albums from Not Lame or similar 
independent
music stores. It's a hassle to download music and burn a CD. But looking at 
the
other side:

I bought the album for only $9.99 at the Real Music Store. Amazon charges 
$6.00
more. Plus shipping. Is it worth more than $6.00 to get a jewel case and the
inserts? The CD-R costs cents, not dollars.

They are predicting that digital music distribution will be the most popular
method. Will there still be demand for brick and mortar and mail order
distribution of physical CD's?

Take care,
Sherman

NP: "Come and Get It a Tribute to Badfinger"
The "Baby Blue" cover by Aimee Mann, with Jon Brion helping out, is worth 
the
cost of the whole album. Sublime guitar playing!




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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:15:48 -0500
From: "bob" <segarini@rogers.com>
To: <jchasin@nyc.rr.com>, <audities@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: Odd combos
Message-ID: <001901c51b7f$2e590670$1429c245@bob>

This is so strange to me.
Back in the day it was GREAT that different genre bands were on the same
bill. The Fillmore, The Avalon, The Crystal Ballroom, Eagles
Auditorium...ALL the great venues in the mid-late '60's had bills like The
Fugs, The Tweedy Brothers, and some folksinger on the same card. Buffalo
Springfield and The Doors, etc. I just found an old Family Dog poster from
The Avalon Ballroom for a show that the Family Tree played in 1967-68.
Starting with the Headliner, the bill was, Taj Mahal, Dave Von Ronk, The
Family Tree, and Creedence Clearwater...all over the map musically, and all
for $3.50.
If they did that now, the business would be in much better shape....but
greedy bands, acts that are afraid the opener will blow them off the stage,
and economics...plus the dumbing down of both the average age of attendees,
and the publics taste being what it currently is, it is not meant to be. All
you get now are hip hop shows where everyone might as well be one act, rock
shows where everyone might as well be Nickelback, and alt shows where the
acts all scream at you about alienation and how f*cked up everything is with
Eddie Vedder's voice and phrasing. Your best bet for live shows these days
are the likes of the IPO's and others that feature low profile bands that
make MUSIC, most flying under the radar, but a loosely knit community
nevertheless that always contains gems and surprises at a resonable ticket
price.
Keep up the good work folks...the music I am exposed to on this list is what
helps me keep the faith...

bob



----- Original Message -----
From: <jchasin@nyc.rr.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Odd combos


>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dave Seaman <seamand@upmc.edu>
>>Also saw Sheryl Crow open for Crowded House in Columbia, OH - Sheryl
>>couldn't touch CH, but she was quite good for a rookie and held
>>her own - I
>>remember thinking, this act will make it (though little did I know how
>>monster big she would get...)
>
>My first exposure to Sheryl Crow was seing her open for the BoDeans in 
>November, 1993 ("All I Wanna Do" was all over the radio the following 
>summer.)  She was really good, good enough that I bought Tuesday Night 
>Music Club shortly thereafter even though I'd never heard of her.  I still 
>think that record is damned good.  Kevin Gilbert fans may have a beef as to 
>why... The BoDeans were great though as always; their last trip to NYC 
>until 1996, which was their last trip to NYC for 5 years.  They came back 
>last summer but I was out of town.
>
>It is rare I like an opener I'd never heard of enough to buy their record.
>Most recent time was seeing Ollabelle open for Ryan Adams last December (I 
>think) at the Beacon. I like that one a lot, although it is vey muc not in 
>the Audities vein.
>
>Saw Yo La Tengo open for Posies-era Big Star.  Didn't like 'em (YLT; I 
>liked Big Star just fine).
>
>
>


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:09:45 -0800
From: Joe Field <joe@flyingcolorscomics.com>
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Odd combos
Message-ID: <421FA229.7050405@flyingcolorscomics.com>

bob wrote:
>
>Back in the day it was GREAT that different genre bands were on the same 
>bill. If they did that now, the business would be in much better 
>shape....but greedy bands, acts that are afraid the opener will blow them 
>off the stage, and economics...plus the dumbing down of both the average 
>age of attendees, and the publics taste being what it currently is, it is 
>not meant to be....<<

From what I've heard, Bill Graham wanted the odd combos of acts in the
hey-days of the Fillmore and Winterland because he wanted to expose
concert goers to different kinds of music in the hope it would broaden
their musical horizons.

With the big labels these days, promotion is all about narrow-casting. Sad.


Joe Field
http://FlyingColorsComics.com
Free Comic Book Day is May 7
http://FreeComicBookDay.com


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:25:31 -0500
From: "Christopher Kouzes" <Christopher.Kouzes@btol.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: Opening Acts
Message-ID:
<D7724456724AF0498F9197BA45BF96F905A24629@bwtex01.btcorp.intra.btol.com>

John is in a new band called Fire Marshalls of Bethlehem and have just
released a new CD called Songs for Housework (looks like it's available
from CD Baby and their website http://www.thereivers.net/home.html

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: audities-owner@smoe.org [mailto:audities-owner@smoe.org] On Behalf
Of Gene Good
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 3:54 PM
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Opening Acts

You bring up something I have been wondering about.What happened to the
Reivers/John Croslin? Are they/he still recording at all.I miss them and

recenty was playing their stuff thinking about them.I hope someone from
Audities can answer.
  Gene

>From: "brynneandscott" <brynneandscott@cox.net>
>Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
>To: <audities@smoe.org>
>Subject: Re: Opening Acts
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:49:19 -0500
>
>I saw the Goo Goo Dolls open for Material Issue in NJ a week after the
MI
>debut cd came out.
>
>I was talking to the guys from MI several years later while they were
in
>the
>recording studio with Liz Phair. They were taping the Banana Splits
song
>for
>the cartoon trib cd.
>
>At this time they no longer had a record deal and they were mentioning
all
>the bands that opened for them that ended up hitting it big.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I also know Hootie and the Blowfish opened for the Reivers. In fact,
H&B
>covered a Reivers song as a b-side on a single and John Croslin found
out
>when the royalty check came. He said he earned more from that b-side
than
>their whole recorded output. Sad but true.
>
>
>Scott S
>
>






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Miles said:

Eytan Mirsky:
>On the other thread: for me SCTV was never the same after Harold Ramis 
>left. So I'm going way back when it was only a half hour show, I think.

Miles:
This is the television equivalent of saying something like "those Beatles 
never
were the same for me after they dumped Pete Best." :-)  I love SCTV in any 
form,
including the unjustly lambasted year on Cinemax, but the Network 90 shows 
rule
beyond all others.

Me again
I figured someone would say something like that, but, no, it's not the 
equivalent because people generally agree that Pete Best was not much of a 
drummer whereas Harold Ramis went on to much success as an actor, writer and 
director.  (I just liked the show better in the beginning.)



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