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From "josh chasin" <jchasin@nyc.rr.com>
Subject Re: The Wisdom of Avril vs the wisdom of Jill Sobule
Date Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:05:07 -0500

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I'm saying I think if you listen to the song a few times I think you'll find
it less offensive and more joyous.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael vg" <govango@yahoo.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: The Wisdom of Avril vs the wisdom of Jill Sobule


> I know who Jill Sobule is. I have a couple of her CDs.
> As I stated just my thoughts. They don't have to be yours.
>
>  michael vg
>
> --- josh chasin <jchasin@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I've heard Jill do this song live, and even performed it with her
onstage 3
> > times, imitating the Chicago trumpet by pursing my lips to replicate the
> > effects created in studio by the loop (I have an mp3 to prove it).  If
you
> > want to criticize someone for ripping off with loops, this is the wrong
> > artist.  She is a songwriting machine. This was a deliberate and knowing
> > (and effective) homage, the use of the Chicago song evoking the era the
> > lyrics to her song are about.  She said Lamm was extremely nice about
the
> > whole thing, and advised that she could simply recreate the loop so that
it
> > would be cheaper.
> >
> > Listen to the song a few times, and get past your original offense, and
> > remember that this is a prolific and talented and essentially
independent
> > singer/songwriter who makes her living (barely) writing and performing.
> > This is not Janet Jackson.  I think it is one of the songs of the year.
> >
> > By the way, the song is about taking mushrooms and tripping in the park
in
> > the 70s at the battle of the bands.  What's not to like?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Michael vg" <govango@yahoo.com>
> > To: <audities@smoe.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:07 AM
> > Subject: The Wisdom of Avril vs the wisdom of Jill Sobule
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  Listening to the latest TRACKS sampler this morning and what I
thought
> > > was a cover of Chicago's Saturday In The Park, turns out to be Jill
> > > Sobule's total rip of said song called Cinnamon Park.
> > >  It appears she credits Lamm as songwriter, but for some reason
> > > I find this more of a offense then someone who only sings
> > > what others write.
> > >  I thought Greg's comments were dead on. As a fan of so many
> > > singers, Sinatra, Ella, Johnny Hartman etc. as well as rock and
> > > roll, I find more enjoyment in the ability to play or sing a song,
> > > not always to write one.
> > >  Just my thoughts,
> > >   michael vg
> > >
> > >
> > >
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