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| From | erhoek@comcast.net |
| Subject | Getting Hives |
| Date | Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:44:35 +0000 |
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I may be wrong but I think you are thinking of the White Stripes when speaking of Sympathy for the Record Industry. The Hives were on Joe Foster and Al McGee's Poptones label in the UK and Epitaph signed a deal with the Burning Heart label here before doing the Interscope deal.
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> From: "Jaimie Vernon"
> >>The problem is that most teenagers latch on to what they're force
> >>fed
> >>via commercial radio, TV, commercials, the record industry. The
> >>industry
> >>has a proven record of success with marketing teen singers to
> >>teenage
> >>audiences.
> >>If a big record company pumped millions of dollars into promoting
> >>the
> >>Shazam, they
> >>may or may not make a pay-off...regardless of the music or talent
> >>the Shazam may
> >>posses. Any label with half a brain wouldn't take that risk...and I
> >>don't
> >>blame them.
> >
> > Yeah, I belive this same conversation came up a few years ago about
> > Fountains Of Wayne. Funny what can happen when a label DOES get
> > behind things.
>
> Well, in that case, what happens is that a band that's on its third
> fine album gets tagged a novelty one-hit wonder: "Mexican Wine" and
> "Bright Future In Sales" didn't make one-tenth the impact of "Stacy's
> Mom," despite being just-as-good, if not better, songs. (Frankly,
> "Bright Future" is probably my favorite FoW song of all time.) And
> unfortunately, if those stories that started circulating last summer
> are true, and Chris is displeased about the band's newfound notoriety
> being due to a song he considers a lightweight joke (a deeply odd
> statement coming from the man who wrote "Leave the Biker"), then that
> might have a serious adverse effect on the band's future development.
> All in all, I'm afraid that the Fountains of Wayne story might end up
> being a cautionary tale of the "be careful what you wish for" variety.
>
> The Hives, mentioned in Jeff's initial post, may already be feeling
> the same effect: unfortunately, my wife seems to have swiped the last
> couple issues of Entertianment Weekly to read on the subway, but sales
> figures for TYRANNOSAURUS HIVES were quoted a couple weeks back. It
> was some number like 24,000 or 36,000 copies, and the implication was
> that it was one of the biggest sales disappointments of the summer. I
> don't claim to speak for anyone else who has ever released a record,
> but I could only dream of a "disappointment" like that. If the Hives
> were still on Sympathy for the Record Industry, they and their label
> would be over the moon with sales figures like that, but in the
> post-consolidation age, that's enough to get their nattily-attired
> asses bounced off of Interscope by the end of this year, if the
> decision hasn't been made already.
>
> The sad truth is, no matter what kind of public splash individual
> songs and individual albums might make every so often -- and let's not
> forget, the simple fact that bands like the Hives and Fountains of
> Wayne *have* been getting the occasional big splash lately is most
> encouraging -- the style of music beloved by Auditeers far and wide is
> now and for the foreseeable future will remain a niche market, one no
> bigger than the audience for European death metal. The world of
> Ashlee and Jessica and their like is as alien to these bands as the
> world of SHREK 2 is to those little Asian movies I go to at the
> Brattle and the Harvard Film Archive: it's entirely possible to like
> both, yes, but the likelihood that any more than a few thousand
> moviegoers in the US will be interested in a movie about a bicycle
> messenger in Beijing trying to relocate his missing wheels is quite
> small. But what's better: complaining endlessly about the horrible
> injustice in the world that allows deriviative crap like A SHARK'S
> TALE to be the biggest movie in the country when dozens of other,
> better, movies can't even get distribution off the festival circuit,
> or leaping into the festival circuit and enjoying what's there on its
> own smaller-scale terms?
>
> S
>
>
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