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From "bob" <segarini@sympatico.ca>
Subject Re: Taking over? or The way it should be?...
Date Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:11:32 -0400

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The writer of the song, if he/she is like most writers, will have a vision
of how the song should be realized, and hopefully, the vocabulary to impart
his/her vision on bandmates. Further, the writer should be in a group of
like-minded musicians that like what the writer brings to the table, and
understand the musical bed and backing that the writer has in mind. The
writer should also trust the people he has chosen to play with to bring
their contributions to the project, keep an open mind, and not hinder or
block the creative process. With that in mind, I have oft-times been
astounded by what my fellow artists add to what I was sure was the perfect
arrangment, until one of them shows me possibilities I hadn't even thought
of. Great records by groups are usually helmed by the writer, and made
better through collaberative efforts.

bob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <AdamGhost@aol.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Taking over? or The way it should be?...


> Miguel, you're full of great comments today...
>
> I've been accused of being a Nazi bandleader (mostly with affection, I
hope!)
> but I've also been in bands where everything just flowed as a
collaboration
> and where I just shut up and did what I was told.  In each case, that was
the
> most appropriate role to play in the situation (I think!).
>
> I think it really comes down to the bands and personalities involved.
Every
> musician brings certain talents to the table and that includes their own
> personality traits which play into a band situation.  A good bandleader
knows what
> his/her bandmates are capable of and acts accordingly.  The complication
is
> when any band member -- particularly the leader -- is suffering from a
case of
> "bad ego."  Your goal as a band leader should be to make the band sound as
good
> as it possibly can, and not necessarily to control everything just to
control
> it (it's easy to confuse the two goals though).  It's also a case of good

> politics.  You need to know how to get good performances out of people
without
> pissing them off or making them feel condescended to.
>
> In an ideal world, bandleader and musicians should all be trying for the
same
> goal and not get their feelings hurt if some idea doesn't cut it.  With
that
> in mind, there will always be some musicians who are so in tune that you
> should just sit back and let them do their thing, and others that will
need to be
> directed every step of the way.  The key for the bandleader is to know the
> difference and not micromanage where it's not needed.  The key for the
musician is
> to be a team player, contribute where appropriate and stay out when not by
> acknowledging his or her own strengths and weaknesses...something I
personally
> try to do when I'm backing up someone else.
>
> that's my two cents!
> adam marsland
>
> << Well, I'm not trying to put any of these two great artists down,
probably
> the contrary... How many of you musicians on auditees think that either
the
> main artist of a band (or particular song on an album) should take over or
> should it always be a band effort? ... It's worked for Macca & Fogerty but
perhaps
> its not always the case... and come to think about it, it's probably one
of
> the main reasons bands break up...  >>
>


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