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From | "Steve Yaver" <syaver@jps.net> |
Subject | Re: Another Bealtes? |
Date | Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:23:36 -0700 |
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Crap, remind me to never, ever play around on the Internet while at work. I
never finished my thought (and frankly, it's long gone now), but Jason put
it so much better than I ever could anyway.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Yaver" <syaver@jps.net>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Another Bealtes?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Chasin <jchasin@nyc.rr.com>
> Sent: Aug 3, 2004 7:45 PM
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: Re: Another Bealtes?
>
>
> >The Beatles were in fact far MORE than a totally kickass rock band. They
> >were a cultural touchstone. If you walked down the street and you heard
> >Revolver or Sergeant Pepper coming out of a window, you could walk in and
> >instantly know about each other that you were "one of us."
>
> Couldn't you say the same thing about Elvis?
>
> >There was never
> >a rock band before the Beatles (though there were some contemporary with
> >them); They did it all first, from the getting huge to the ego clashes to
> >the break-up to the solo careers. They created the template, and I think
> >their intrinsic resonance contributed to that even becoming the template.
>
> >You could argue that Nirvana meant the same thing for a different
> >generation. But you'd be wrong. Because the Beatles were the first, and
no
> >one can ever be the first again. Its like asking if you'll ever lose
your
> >virginity a second time, if there'll ever be another first kiss. The
> >Beatles don't go with the Stones and the Kinks; they go with JFK and
landing
> >on the moon and the Mets winning the World Series. The Who, it turns
out,
> >were not the first band to vomit in the bar; that would have happened in
> >Hamburg.
>
> This is another place where I kind of lose you. I was in Berkeley when
Nirvana hit, the home
> to 924 Gilman, tons of punk bands...for the kids walking down the street
listening to
> Nirvana, or to give an even better example, Green Day, they were "first",
because it
> was their first attachment to music, and to their lifestyle and culture.
For them, JFK and
> moon landings meant nothing. They cared about Reaganomics. I had Beatles
records
> when I was 9 in 1969, but my "first", when I was 15, was Bruce Springsteen
>
>
> That's why I believe that as regards the "Youth of Today," if they have
> anything like the Beatles, you have to look entirely outside the construct
> of the rock band. I reiterate that the closest collective experience to
the
> Beatles (and ultimately that's what the Beatles were, a collective
defining
> generational experience that has not been matched by a pop group since,
and
> won't be) for the Youth of Today is the Internet. And there will never be
> another Internet.
>
>
>
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