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| Subject | Re: Beates? Yeah, yeah, yeah... |
| Date | Wed, 04 Aug 2004 05:08:52 +0000 |
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Mildred and Patty Hill
Done without a Goolge search but I do read movie credits constantly and it is in about 1 of every 8 movies or so.
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Np..v/a -Second Thoughts
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> At Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:49:40 Barry wrote:
>
> >Gee Jaimie, you have such great things to say . . . usually. These
> >however make no sense to me at all.
> >
> > > 1) It was Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon" that was sent up in the
> > > Voyager explorer to the other side of the galaxy....NOT the Beatles.
> >It's
> > > all about frame of reference.
> >
> >So, a couple of dude at NASA liked the irony of that selection, or maybe
> >they actually liked the record. That says zero about history.
>
> But it perfectly discredits Josh's assertion that the Beatles are the Alpha
> and Omega. If the Beatles were the zenith by which all pop culture is based
> there would have been a Beatles record on board....and to further illustrate
> I must also add that Chuck Berry had a recording on that flight as well.
>
> > > 2) With the exception of Queen and The Dave Clark Five, The Beatles
> >were nearly the last hold out to join the CD revolution.
> >
> >There were CDs when the Beatles and the Dave Clark 5 were recording?
> >Can't say that I remember that.
> >
> > > 3) The Beatles "template" will not survive the Internet.....as they've
> > > balked at the idea of MP3 downloads on any website other than Apple
> >Records.
> >
> >I know nothing about what is or is not on Apple Records' website (okay,
> >I didn't even know there was such a site) but every Beatle recording
> >imaginable is available all over the net.
>
> Again, two examples to illustrate that the Beatles may have BEEN the
> template (back to Josh's mail), but they no longer are. Once that grip on
> popular music/culture/what have you slips from their grasp, time will
> determine how they will survive the coming communications revolution.
>
> > > In 100 years the Beatles will be but a footnote. There will have been
> >more
> > > names and more FIRSTS to have overshadowed everything they did for
> >those
> > > brief 8 years. Just as Wayne Gretzky overshadowed Rocket Richard and
> >Gordie
> > > Howe...so too shall someone overshadow him.
> >
> >I am no more a seer than you are, so you could be right. Richard and
> >Howe were hardly cultural touchstones (at least in the US), so Gretzky's
> >catapulting over them in hockey's recordbooks is not a good analogy.
>
> Yes, it is. Richard and Howe were the definition of hockey during THEIR
> period. They held all the records, scored all the goals, dominated the media
> and defined what hockey was. Gretzky came along, beat the records and
> popularized the game in the eyes of AMERICA....just like a little band from
> Liverpool did.
>
> >What I do know is: we are 35 years into your 100-year period --- a fair
> >ways, I am sure you will agree --- and I hardly see the Beatles on the
> >road to being relegated to a footnote.
>
> Doesn't matter....I'll give you another 30 years from now and the result
> will be the same. With the Internet levelling the playing field and popular
> culture becoming but footnotes on the internet ("Click on the button marked
> 1960's to see what Hippies and Viet Nam were all about").
>
> We can get into a whole sociological debate about information, but that
> won't change the fact that archives aren't being back-dated. We're moving
> forward without taking stock of our past and only those with a boner for
> nostalgia are keeping the spirit alive (I happen to be one of them...which
> is why I wrote The Canadian Music Encyclopedia -- I live in a nation whose
> entire 100 years of musical output has NEVER been measured.)
>
> I realize these are broad strokes, but the Beatles become merely trivia to
> those who didn't live through their influence. They're not gods and their
> accomplishments can only be measured by the culture that it affected. Once
> all the boomers are dead and their children, and radio sinks into the tar
> pit it now inhabits, The Beatles become just another band that gets played
> on Oldies radio stations.
>
> And as for the assertion that "She Loves You" is some reigning beacon of the
> band's enduring qualities, I offer the perennially more popular "Happy
> Birthday" and defy 3 people on this list to name the author of that song
> without doing a Google search.
>
>
> Jaimie Vernon,
> President, Bullseye Records
> http://www.bullseyecanada.com
> Author, Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia
> http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPages
>
>
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