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From "Miguel Motta" <a2j@bellsouth.net>
Subject Re: Another Bealtes?
Date Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:57:43 -0400

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John... actually that was very good... made me look at it from STILL another
point of view... Your well constructed observations are a good look into
what a "phenomenon" is really all about... It just doesn't have to be black
or white music (for lack of better wording) and it doesn't just have to be a
"musical force" either...

One undeniable factor is that The Beatles are probably the most written
about, most covered, like it or lump it band (or force) in the history of
music... I dare say that not even Elvis got as much coverage (as popular as
he was and continues to be)... But you're right John... the "torch" always
has to be passed down and phenomenons or not, every one of them have to find
their niche in history and be content with whatever waves they managed to
have created... Even Mozart... Time is the best judge and witness for every
fad and phenomenon ever registered... Who do we still remember and speak
about today from, say 50, 75 or 100 years ago?... Whom will future
generations still be curious about 100 years from now?... I guess no matter
what my opinion may be, only time can really tell... and with this I'll let
this one go...

Cheers


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John L. Micek" <jlmicek@mindspring.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Another Bealtes?


>
> > Should "another Beatles" ever arise in our lifetime ..
>
> I think it's important to view these things along an historical curve.
>
> Throughout the history of rock music, there's been repeated artistic
waxing
> and wanings.
>
> The 1960s had The Beatles and all the associated beat groups, which
> inevitably led to the post-hippie hangover in the 1970s and disco.
> In response to that, the late 1970s saw the rise of punk, which, in its
> turn, led to the early to middle 80s flowering of college rock.
>
> That, in turn, led to the mediocrity of the late 1980s, which was then
> supplanted by grunge and the alt.rock of the early to middle1990s. That
> flowering, in turn, led us to the Clear Channel era from which we're only
> now starting to emerge.
>
> And that model only works if you subscribe to a very narrow, white boys
with
> guitar paradigm.
>
> On the other hand ...
> You can make, in my book, a pretty credible argument that the rise of rap
> and electronic music was just as important artistically as the
> white-boys-with-guitars movement.
> And, in terms of actual cultural import, it is possible to argue that
> hip-hop has had an impact on overall American culture as deep and as
lasting
> as anything ever achieved by The Beatles.
>
> And, Jim Slade is right, pop music might not be the next place to look for
> The Next Beatles ... It could be in computer software or video games or
> interactive entertainment.
>
> Besides that, the whole "Next Beatles" thing strikes me as pretty darn
> reductive and, if I can be so brash, positions the subscriber as fearful
of
> change.
>
> I'll reveal myself as the bratty GenXer I am here, but I've always thought
> that positioning yourself as "waiting for the next Beatles" is a part of
> that whole Boomer nostalgia trip (Nothing could ever be as good as the
1960s
> ... man ...) and doesn't strike me as terribly productive.
>
> Waiting for the slings and arrows,
> john.
> http://www.milkshakejones.com
>
>
>


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