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| From | "Robert Sutliff" <rsutliff@columbus.rr.com> |
| Subject | Re: The ELO Issue |
| Date | Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:32:14 -0400 |
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I guess it's time for ELO bashing - huh?
I never heard them as Beatle copyists at all. Just one of the few big bands
in the 70's and 80's that were capable of producing quality pop music
consistently. As for Lynne's production techniques - yeah, they weren't
suited to some artists at all. The Edmunds stuff is pretty bad, but then
again I seem to remember the material not being that good either.
And Bev Bevan is a wonderful drummer. For that matter so is Alan White, who
actually played on Instant Karma. Lynne may be a sloppy producer but he's
more than welcome to do my next disc.
Bobby Sutliff
>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:35:45 -0400
> From: "Jaimie Vernon" <bullseyecanada@hotmail.com>
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: Re: The ELO Issue
> Message-ID: <BAY2-F12gbWMgQ89vLU00055bd4@hotmail.com>
>
> At Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:21:41 Billy wrote:
>
> >My gripe with Lynne was his tendancy to cram every inch of his recordings
> >with tons of effects and >gimmicks (though that was one of the charms of
> >"Out of The Blue" and "Time") and his drum mixes <are horrible - he made
> >every drummer sound like they were using the same kit - Bev Beven, Ringo,
> >Jim >Keltner and Stan Lynch.
>
> In a nutshell Lynne's "technique" is merely to have drummers overdub their
> entire performance a la Keltner's Phil Spector fiasco on John Lennon's
> "Instant Karma". The problem with overdubbing drums is getting the kick
drum
> tight -- no matter how good a drummer is, repeating a performance is
tough.
>
> Listen to "Don't Let Me Down" on ELO's "Discovery" and you can hear Bevan
> pushing and pulling the tempo along because the kick drum dubs are out of
> sync. I always thought Bevan was just a sloppy drummer....turns out Lynne
> was just a sloppy producer.
>
> These days, with ProTools, that wouldn't be a problem, but back then it
> caused a sound that wasn't so much a "wall of sound" but a collision of
> noise.
>
>
> Jaimie Vernon,
> President, Bullseye Records
> http://www.bullseyecanada.com
> Author, Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia
> http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPages
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