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| From | "Michael Bennett" <mrhonorama@hotmail.com> |
| Subject | Re: FOW- Mexican Wine AARRRGGGHHHHH |
| Date | Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:35:37 -0600 |
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> >Look -- a lot of folks may think that Jocelyn is going overboard about
>this,
> >but even though I recognized that the video was a parody/homage, I did
>think
> >that some might find it sexist. It's a valid (but arguable beef).
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>It's an entirely valid point, and I never argued that it wasn't, but I also
>thought that Jocelyn's rant was about as over the top as the endlessly
>repeated claims that three-quarters of a second of a bejeweled nipple on
>live TV were going to lead to the downfall of western society as we know
>it. The sins of this video can't take the weight of the argument presented
>against it, which made the argument sound rather spectacularly silly.
-- If you had made that point in the first place, that would have added to
the discussion.
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> >Fuck, we've had lengthy discussions on the meaning of 'twee' and 'power
> >pop', so this attempt to diminish Jocelyn's meritorious point about a
>video
> >by casting in a perspective that is outside the parameters of a music
> >discussion list is fairly specious.
>
>The political aspect was introduced by Jocelyn herself -- if that rant
>doesn't fall under the rubric of "sexual politics," then that term is
>meaningless -- and the idea that music, video (hell, culture in general,
>"popular" or otherwise) and politics are always entirely separate flies in
>the face of logic. I ratcheted up the polemic by bringing in the Avignon
>President, true, but that element was already there.
-- On the other hand, your attempt to defend your original comment is as
well-directed as a Condi Rice think piece. Since what she wrote fell within
the penumbra of sexual politics, it allowed you to make a comment on other
political issues, which, as written, made it seem like she didn't care about
issues you deem weightier? This is akin to the 9/11 hearings -- when
Richard Clarke was testifying, he was asked why he didn't make all these
comments about Iraq in his testimony at a prior hearing -- the implication
being that he was telling a different story. His reply -- no one asked me
about the Iraq war at the last hearing.
Mike Bennett
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