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| From | "bob" <segarini@sympatico.ca> |
| Subject | Re: FOW- Mexican Wine AARRRGGGHHHHH |
| Date | Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:28:09 -0500 |
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Great record, great video, great band...take a pill.
bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jocelyn Geboy" <smussyolay@yahoo.com>
To: "*Bill Holmes*" <bholmes_fm@msn.com>; <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: FOW- Mexican Wine AARRRGGGHHHHH
> --- *Bill Holmes* <bholmes_fm@msn.com> wrote:
> > > That video was pretty much garbage...
> > > > ~~~i wanted to thank you for the link.
> > sometimes,
> > > > however, ignorance truly IS bliss.
> >
> > To quote another great comedy, "Lighten up,
> > Francis!" :)
> >
> > ~~~you know....i hate to get all political, but i'm
> going to get all political. and i won't speak for all
> the women on the list, but.... i DO truly believe that
> it's this kind of video and this kind of ongoing crap
> tv on MTV and such that really contributes to a really
> shitty sexual atmosphere and the continuing
> perpetuation of ideals to women and men (however, esp.
> YOUNG women and men) that you have to be hot and thin
> and rich and these are the only things that matter.
> that women are only objects for sexual
> gratification/object worship (e.g. all women have
> pillow fights in babydoll pajamas).
>
> and just from some of the comments i've already read
> on this list, it makes me ever less hopeful for the
> state of affairs. sometimes, people have to realize
> the impact of what they do (art IS meaningful, and YES
> videos ARE art...), and not just go for the lowest
> common denominator, i think. and i LIKE FOW because
> they have seemed to be witty and smart and lyrically
> interesting. and then they seem to go against all of
> that with these videos that *might* have an inside
> joke, but the larger picture if lost, is really losing
> big.
>
> it might be easy for you to tell me to lighten up, but
> you probably have never been catcalled or feared for
> your safety as the result of a society that
> underlyingly supports the ideas that are tacitly
> represented in this video.
>
> it might sound far-fetched. but i really believe that
> people have to start somewhere in order to change a
> lot of the stuff that ills us a nation.
>
> .04
> jocelyn
>
>
>
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