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| From | "Tiny Volcano" <tinyvolcano@charter.net> |
| Subject | Re: Why we will not be attending IPO again this year :-( |
| Date | Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:02:12 -0800 |
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here, here.
nicely said.
----- Original Message -----
From: <garymaher@juno.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Why we will not be attending IPO again this year :-(
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:00:11 -0500 audities-owner@smoe.org writes:
> > Unfortunately, the
> > US givernment has
> > decided that the
> > best way to clamp
> > down on an almost
> > non-existent
> > terrorist threat
>
> As much as I dislike the idea of our little Audities world being infested
> with political dialogue, I found this post to be tremendously disturbing,
> so I felt compelled to respond.
>
> I guess you live far enough away from New York and Washington that you
> didn't feel it. Well, I promise you I felt it. My house is less than 30
> miles from NYC, and I could see the column of smoke from my home for a
> couple of days. I had friends in the building who are lucky to be alive
> today. It's easy for you from a safe distance to say the threat is
> "almost non-existent". For those of us in harm's way, the threat is very
> real and something we've had to get used to living with every single day.
> The last thing I need is for my friends and loved ones to be among the
> next 2,500 victims of this "almost non-existent threat".
>
> > alter its
> > foreign policy to
> > make itself less of
> > a target
>
> Ah, so you're saying it's our own fault. Lovely. Or are you saying we
> should just give in to the terrorists? Nearly as lovely, and a clear
> invitation to more attacks.
>
> >, and impose
> > sanctions against
> > those countries
> > connected with the
> > September 2001
> > attacks,
>
> We attacked one of them. Does that count? (That was a weak attempt at
> humor. I don't buy Bush's bullshit any more than the next guy. DOESN'T
> ANYBODY ELSE SEE THE BLATANT CONFLICT OF INTEREST?
> http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html )
>
> Actually, it's a little hard to impose sanctions when our enemies are
> rogue groups that are apparently not supported by or aligned with any
> particular nation. Are you suggesting we sanction Saudi Arabia? As
> unhappy as I may be with the Saudis' wishy-washy efforts to stop
> terrorism, the creation of a rift between the Saudis and the US appears
> to have been one of the terrorists' goals. They're as pissed off at the
> Saudi government as we are. What good would sanctions do?
>
> > but rather
> > to harass innocent
> > travellers from
> > friendly countries.
>
> Unfortunately, despite our technological advances, we haven't yet
> perfected the terrorometer. (If a pink plus sign appears, you're a
> terrorist.) It is anticipated that the next batch of terrorists will not
> be a bunch of 20-32-year-old middle eastern men, but individuals selected
> from a variety of ethnic groups. Richard Reid (the Shoe Bomber) is a
> half-Jamaican, half-English chap from Bromley. Jose Padilla (the accused
> attempted Dirty Bomber) is a hispanic native of Brooklyn.) So we have to
> err on the side of caution here. And like it or not, the sense that our
> security process is excessive and/or a pain in the ass serves as a
> deterrent to terrorists, because it makes them more afraid that they well
> get snagged. Still, our security is not the strictest in the world, it's
> just that people were used to travelling freely here. Unfortunately, we
> are now in a war zone, so that's a thing of the past.
>
> Hey, Americans love Canada! I think the American on the street pretty
> much thinks of Canada as a little brother. Some of us even joke about it
> as being the 51st State (in a loving way, with no disrespect to Puerto
> Rico)! But we're having a bit of a crisis here, so please bear with us!
>
> Just to throw some facts on the fire, let me concluded with this:
>
> "Have terrorists tried to cross into the United States from Canada?
> Yes. While none of the September 11 hijackers entered via Canada, several
> unsuccessful plots to attack American targets have been planned by
> foreign terrorists operating out of Canada. Moreover, Canadian
> intelligence officials estimate that some 50 known terrorist
> organizations have cells in Canada."
>
> (From http://cfrterrorism.org/security/borders.html)
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
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