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From Jocelyn Geboy <smussyolay@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Why we will not be attending IPO again this year :-(
Date Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:48:58 -0800 (PST)

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~~~~i am and have continued to be SO confused by this.
 isn't the united states FRIENDLY with canada?  since
when do we have to be afraid about musicians crossing
borders? i thought all you needed was an ID or
something. really. i don't get this.  why canada?  i'm
not thinking canadians really want to stay here....so
they can *not* get health insurance?

confused about -that- today,
jocelyn

np: the best of rick nelson
--- Jaimie Vernon <bullseyecanada@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Tuesday, February 17, 2004
> 
> Cdn. musicians face border headaches
> By JOHN LEWANDOWSKI
> Canadian Press
> 
> ST. JOHN'S, Nfld. -- Their music may transcend
> borders. But increasingly 
> Canadian musicians are finding they do not.
> 
> At least not without the right paperwork and even
> that's no guarantee.
> 
> The new immigration and security demands imposed by
> a post 9-11 United 
> States are making it harder for aspiring artists to
> build a profile south of 
> the border.
> 
> "We found it incredibly difficult. It's really
> hampered us to a great 
> degree," said Craig Mercer, whose Jimmy Swift Band
> has just lined up a 
> couple of U.S. club dates.
> 
> "We find it very strange that American bands,
> members of the same union, can 
> come up here with very little difficulty but bands
> from here are having a 
> great deal of difficulty getting across the border,"
> said the Halifax-based 
> guitarist and front man.
> 
> While there's nothing straightforward about crossing
> the Canada-U.S border 
> these days, officials from the American Federation
> of Musicians generally 
> agree it's easier for Americans to play in Canada.
> 
> As long as they've got signed contracts, their
> identification and criminal 
> checks pan out, and Canadian officials don't feel
> they're taking work away 
> from Canadian musicians, they're pretty much in.
> 
> Corina Robidoux, a spokeswoman for the federation,
> works through the maze of 
> immigration paperwork for all Canadian artists
> heading stateside.
> 
> "You have to first have signed contracts with
> employers in the U.S. six to 
> eight months in advance before you can even apply
> for a P-2 (a non-immigrant 
> work permit)," she said from her Toronto office.
> 
> Robidoux said even with the paperwork, which can
> take up to 150 days to 
> process, there's no guarantee you'll get in.
> 
> A lot of things factor in, not the least of which
> may be a border agent who 
> doesn't like the look of the applicant.
> 
> Ignoring the rules and trying to play without
> approval could carry a heavy 
> price.
> 
> "You'll be considered an illegal immigrant," says
> Robidoux. "Fines levied, 
> vehicles and gear impounded and a ban from ever
> entering the U.S. again. 
> It's not worth the gamble."
> 
> Work permits can be expedited through a 15-day
> process that costs $1,000 US 
> over and above the $130 US fee for the P-2
> application. But, again, all the 
> U.S. immigration service will guarantee is a
> response within that time 
> frame.
> 
> The problem has already caused headaches for booking
> agent Joan Kirby of 
> LiveTourArtists in Oakville, Ont.
> 
> "It's very arbitrary. And I don't know how to combat
> it. It's hard enough to 
> get the dates in the first place," she said, having
> just scrubbed some shows 
> for one of her bands because the paperwork wasn't
> done in time.
> 
> Kirby said she recently had one act show up at the
> border, paperwork in 
> hand, only to be held up for no explainable reason.
> 
> "I guess the woman that met them was unhappy to be
> up at 7:30 in the morning 
> and proceeded to keep them there for four hours.
> They had all their 
> paperwork. There was no reason to stop them," she
> said.
> 
> One of Kirby's acts, blues artist Charlie A'Court,
> says it can be an 
> attitude thing at the border.
> 
> "You get there and maybe one of the customs officers
> is having a bad day and 
> that gives them the green light to be arrogant
> sometimes," he said at the 
> East Coast Music Awards. "Maybe it's just the look.
> 
> "You know a guy with long hair, looks like a pot
> smoker", he laughs, his 
> long blond mane tied back in a ponytail.
> 
> "I've never done drugs in my life. I don't know what
> pot's like, except for 
> maybe the smell of it at a Bob Dylan concert."
> 
>
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