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From Jocelyn Geboy <smussyolay@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: random first hour Grammy musings - like you care
Date Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:39:55 -0800 (PST)

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~~~i'm glad FOW are hitting it big.  it was the way
over the top tits and ass POV of the video i didn't
like. as if they *couldn't* hit it big unless they
pandered that way.  that's what i didn't appreciate.  

i heard mexican wine on the radio yesterday (yay!),
and a friend of mine just referenced 'hey julie' (he
said..the song about the mean man getting him down??
it took me a second, i didn't realize that was a
single here in chicago) in re: FOW.  i just don't
think it's their best song.  it's the semisonic/del
amitri dilemma. 

the gin blossoms with 'hey jealousy' and matthew
sweet's 'girlfriend' are a couple of times where
people's instant connections with a band/artist are
actually ones i'm GLAD they have....but then again,
who the hell am i???

jocelyn

--- Michael Bennett <mrhonorama@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Have you spent any time on the Bomp list?  Maybe you
> missed the vitriol that 
> some garage fans directed at bands like The Hives,
> based on their success.  
> As for your Fountains Of Wayne point -- what
> insulated world do you live 
> in???  Any band that rises to success gets a certain
> amount of shit from 
> their fans.  Success breeds that sort of thing.
> 
> However, I'm glad that you qualified your comments
> re: power pop fans.  Yes, 
> there are some fans of power pop who only want
> things to be carbon copies.  
> Looking pretty much the same, though a bit blurry --
> fresh off the 
> mimeograph.  Such close minded stances are annoying,
> laughable whatever.  I 
> agree.  That only applies to a portion of the
> audience.  And this is true of 
> any revivalist genre -- some people just want things
> to be the way they 
> were.
> 
> Mike Bennett
> 
> 
> 
> Record reviews and more at http://fufkin.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Stewart Mason <flamingo@theworld.com>
> >Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
> >To: audities@smoe.org, audities@smoe.org
> >Subject: Re: random first hour Grammy musings -
> like you care
> >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:02:08 -0500
> >
> >At 06:43 PM 2/9/2004 -0600, Michael Bennett wrote:
> > >2.  I would agree with Stewart, to a degree, that
> power pop has generally
> > >pretty ossified.  But it isn't like power pop is
> the sole genre with that
> > >attribute.  Garage rock anyone?  Ska?  I could go
> on...
> >
> >I don't hang around with enough ska fans to be able
> to say anything one way
> >or the other, but I do count a number of hardcore
> garage rock fans among my
> >friends and acquaintances, and for me, the main
> difference I'd say I see
> >between garage rock fans and power pop fans is that
> I never see the kind of
> >plain, unalloyed disgust that shows up so regularly
> here whenever a band
> >that can loosely be aligned with "our" form of
> music shows signs of
> >breaking out of the protective bubble.  (Yes,
> WELCOME INTERSTATE MANAGERS
> >topped the Audities poll last year, but I'm
> probably not the only one who
> >remembers how controversial "Stacy's Mom" was in
> some quarters hereabouts,
> >as a piece of music, as a video, as a hit record,
> as a song that caused
> >interlopers and arrivistes to show up at FoW
> concerts and finally as a song
> >that Chris Collingswood supposedly regrets writing
> and recording.)  And I
> >certainly have never seen a more parochial group
> than the subset of power
> >pop fans whose only criterion for new music is that
> it remind them strongly
> >of music that they've previously enjoyed, and the
> more it sounds like an
> >old Badfinger outtake, the better.  And other than
> the extremely rare like
> >of complete twats like Jeff Connolly, I know no
> garage rock equivalents to
> >the Pop Stalinists, who take that "newness and
> variety scares and angers
> >me" mindset to such an untenable extent that they
> think that anything that
> >doesn't sound like a 10-generation copy of the
> Beatles just plain "isn't
> >music."  Years ago, such people angered me.  Now I
> mostly just find them
> >pathetic and vaguely amusing.
> >
> >Some forms of music ossify through benign neglect. 
> In some hands, power
> >pop often seems like it's deliberately chosen to
> ossify itself.
> >
> >S
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>
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