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From The Suggestions <tigerpop1@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: ryan adams etc
Date Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:39:10 -0800 (PST)

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I wasn't trying to say that Prince went totally into
the shitter--I did mention that he still has a small
handful of good songs on each release--but as you
said, it's the sheer amount of work he puts out that
overcrowds and overshadows the good stuff, much the
same as Ryan Adams (although he clearly was partial to
the "Love Is Hell" stuff, more than half of it is all
ego/no substance). And I also agree that
"Emancipation" really could have been a wonderful
single-disc, but THREE? Geez, who has that kind of
time?!? I realize he was excited to have control of
his career again, but to derail it THAT quickly was
ridiculous. Prince is still a MONSTER in concert,
though. I'm just not buying into the studio stuff
anymore.


Josh Chasin wrote:

Just for the record-- and this is not a fundamental
disagreement with 
you at
all-- I think Prince has remained consistently good. 
Its just that, as 
you
say, he puts out so MUCH that the body of work suffers
from lack of 
editing.
If, for example, he had been forced to take
Emancipation-- a 3-CD set 
from
'96 which I actually really like-- and cut it down to
one disc, that 
disc
would have been killer.  Every single Prince album has
at least one or 
two
or three total keepers.  But when he could only put
out 10-12 songs a 
year,
those 12 songs (on one album) were all top-rate for
the most part.

For what its worth, I thought that Rainbow Children
was quite good-- 
better
the first half than the second-- and that the '02 live
album was very, 
VERY
good.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Suggestions" <tigerpop1@yahoo.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Ryan Adams, aged journalists.


> Age ain't nothin' but a number, just ask Robert
> Christgau at the Village Voice. That guy must be
about
> 100 years old by now...
>
> The Adams thing is hilarious. Although I liked his
> latest record (lloR n kocR), and he's done some
really
> good stuff in the past (Heartbreaker, for one, is a
> wonderful LP), what Deregotis says of him is fairly
> accurate: the guy thinks that everything that he
> writes is worth hearing. From a songwriter's point
of
> view, I can say for sure that this is not the case.
> Odds are you'll write one good song for every 10 bad
> ones, and you'll probably nail less than five
> "classic" or "defining" songs in an entire career.
> Adams has one of the most waterlogged, bloated
> repetoires in modern music, and he's not even 30
yet.
> (Add to list: Ani DiFranco, who one day may make a
> brilliant record, but seems to be too concerned with
> putting everything she scribbles on a napkin to
> music). I can't speak from personal
experience--hell,
> I'm not even 30 myself--but let's look at one of my
> former favorite artists: PRINCE. He made amazing
music
> right on through the early 90's (Most stop at "Sign
o'
> the Times," I'm giving him a little extra credit),
but
> after he was set free from Warner Bros, after that
> whole debacle over not being able to release as much
> music as he wanted to, he just hit a long span of
suck
> that continues to this day. Three-CD sets with four
or
> five good songs, over and over... It's like my momma
> said, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't
> say anything at all"...
> jb


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