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From Steven.Durben@cignabehavioral.com
Subject Re More Adams, Re: Falling Stars
Date Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:59:00 -0000

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Snip: Bruce said..
But, personally, I'll take ALWAYS never knowing what to expect w/ any 
artist
I'm going to take the time to go see.  Knowing full well w/ someone 
like
Adams, well, it may be 'miss' on any given night.

But it could be one of the most memorable, too.  NOT just another 
cool show
to attend and casually dig.
And if the artist/band suck, get self-indulgent, whatever,  well, 
that's the
risk for potentially seeing greatness. But dialing in a predictable,
same-old-same-after-each-night-same set-list type of show which, 
let's face
it, most artists do in all rock genres way, way too often, well, I'll 
take
getting burned, every now and then.




@@@@ Hi Bruce, actually I agree with you on this. Were probably 
really not that different in terms of what we look for in general in 
a show but maybe have different impressions on Adams.  This is my 
last post that refers to Adams in anyway, for a looong time. Scouts 
honor!  
   Some of my fav performances over the years have come from such 
unpredictable bands and they tend to be the ones I continued to see 
on many occassions. The Replacements, Iggy Pop to name a few. (An 
aside: an Iggy moment from about 1978 or so..He was playing a little 
club and kept YELLING for the lights to above him "to be turned off 
his f@cking face". This lead to a short "war" with the light guy 
turning them back on occasionally with hopes the Iggster would have 
calmed down. He NEVER did. He kept yelling for the lights to be 
turned off his face every time they tried to turn them back on.  He 
threatened to walk out if they didn't leave it off. Naturally Iggy 
won this battle.  This left the audience to only make out shadows of 
Iggy's face during most of the show. However, this was a bizarre, 
intense but wonderful show. So, I don't disagree with the 
characteristics you mention at all in terms of what makes a great 
show.
   I also have seen to many bands that play it safe and I wouldn't 
see them more then a time or two because I'm fairly certain their 
will be no surprises at future shows. Again, an only my impression, 
right or wrong of FOW. Love the band, live...just OK. 
    For me, and hoping I don't sound to cliché, along with 
spontaneity of performance comes the momentary relationship the 
performer has with the audience is a key. Someone might do this well 
if intoxicated, or while embarrassing themselves, while falling off 
the stage, losing their voice (as Arthur Lee did when he was 
here..probably my fav show that year), with their pants arond thier 
ankles (Stiv Bators anyone?) or wearing their flaws on their sleeve.  
I'm also not looking for perfect shows (how boring that would be). 
For me, the Adam's show I saw was not about the audience at all (IMO)
and that's my main point. But, that was just my reaction. We all 
chose relationships of all kind based on gut reactions every day, do 
we not?  Anyway, the article just connected with an impression I have 
regarding him. I may be wrong and I'm always open to that 
possibility/probability. In fact, I'd love to be wrong about these 
impressions. :)


Bruce continues...
Speaking of, here's a GOOD thread.   GREAT songwriters who just 
TOTALLY lost
the clue, the path, the vision-thing, the kaboodle---after shining 
greatness
for a short(or long) time.


You picked the two I would. Stevie and Elton were so dam great back 
in the day. 
Someone already stole Rod Stewart from me. I personally don't compare 
him to Stevie or Elton. Didn't someone have a quote about Rod that 
went something like: "Rarely has someone so completely abandoned 
their talent".  
  How about Leo Sayer past his first two albums?  OK, I'm only kind 
of kidding.  Making myself an easy target.
  How about the Bee Gees? I'm just sort of "discovering" their early 
work and yes, greatness was once theirs. 
   Regarding Stones: Hmmm, whomever said they were a "bar band". Hey, 
I'm not a huge Stones fan but come on.  Really? Like them or not, you 
have to admit at worst they have more charisma  then the average bar 
band. No?
Josh, I'll add I dug much of Emotional Rescue too. You are not 
alone! ;)


Best wishes, Steve D. 

   









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