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| From | Steven.Durben@cignabehavioral.com |
| Subject | Re: Ryan Adams - Rock On, Brother! |
| Date | Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:17:06 -0000 |
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--- In audities@yahoogroups.com, Not Lame <popmusic@n...> wrote:
> > "This is one of my worst shows ever, but I like it," he said
> > defiantly near the end.
> >
> > By then, half of the sellout crowd had left. Of the ones who
stayed,
> > some were no doubt hoping Westerberg would show up and meet Adams'
> > needs.
>
>
> I say GOD BLESS, THE BOY for being a wonderfully, publically and
honest
> fucked up mess! So he went off and was actin a bit 'spoiled', or
whatever
> the reviewer wants to call it, he still put up two hours and was
himself,
> for better or worse. At least, he has SONGS to back up any of his
behavoir,
> which is a lot more than, surely, more than the 90% of the bands
that have
> visited the venue this year.
@@@@Hey Bruce, I gotta disagree with you. Mainly, I don't think he
is abour "rocking on" when he's bad. His having the "songs" but
being a mess during a performance doesn't mean I'm going to like the
show. It sounds like he first was sulking, then walked off stage
sulking twice, which is, well, lame. ;) Then, he seemed to
get "chatty" over what a lousy show he was putting on. Sounds a bit
self indulgent to me. (again, I was not there but that's how I read
this review).
I personally don't pay money to see a car wreck. I don't mind
loose shows, drunken shows, but I do ask the performer to give a sh*t
when they play. My sense is that for whatever reason; there are many
shows where he just doesn't care to invest himself in the
performance. I've seen many, many shows in my life (as most of us
have on this list ), and many that have not been that great. Only a
few times have I seen a show where the performer overtly seemed
uninvested, uninterested or almost "above" caring about the
performance. For me, Ryan Adam's show last year was one such show. It
sounds like he had yet another in a series of such shows.. If
that's anyone's thing, that's fine. . It's not for me. In fact, such
performances for whatever reason, tend to linger for me and it takes
me a while to even hear the songs on a disc the same way as I had
prior to the show. The old, does the character of the singer matter
in relationship to the songs discussion.
The Mats are an obvious comparison. However, the Mats, at their
worst live were dunked idiots (which, was fun sometimes and annoying
other times). However, for me the sense was it all related to their
discomfort with their image.. Like the Who's crashing guitars, they
kind of gut stuck in this stupid image of their own doing and had a
hard time letting go of it. Conversely, (IMO), Adams seems to be
dealing with demons of how dam talented he is and believes the hype.
This can be a joyless experience as an audience member.
Maybe the media has created this image of Adams but I only know
what I saw a year ago and have to trust that more then anything (it's
all I have after all).
Like Josh, I too have a CDr of a show in which he simply
shined. He clearly is capable of putting on great shows. I'm just
not willing to gamble on it.
Steve D
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